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The question is this:

When assaulting vehicles, can models elect to throw grenades into the vehicle similar to the rules for assaulting buildings?
The relevant rule is pg 94 "If a unit assaults a building, any of its models that are within 2" of at least one Fire Point can each
throw one grenade inside the building instead of striking in close combat" if buildings and vehicles both have
fire points, it stands to reason that you can shove grenades into them.

It would seem fairly balanced to allow it, especially since embarked models get to shoot overwatch at the attackers.

On that vein, does throwing grenades into open-topped vehicles via assaulting the vehicle count as throwing grenades on a battlement (D3)


Discussion?

1) You can use grenades in CC anyway. Already covered in the grenade rules - you can use them against vehicles and MCs, 1 attack per person

2) No, as an open topped vehicle is not a battlement.

No, it isn't covered in grenade rules. You can attack the vehicle itself, yes, but it omits whether the grenade can be thrown into the fire point as opposed to slapped onto the vehicle.

The question itself is about whether or not the owner can choose to use the grenades through the fire point in a vehicle like you can in a building.
The principle of the building rule can be condensed as "models can throw grenades into fire points instead of using them on armor value in an assault".


I understand this is most likely a Brit vs American conceptualization of the rules, but discussion is welcome.

Yes, it IS covered in the rules. The rules tell you HOW you use grenades against vehicles

Does it say you can throw them through fire points? No? Guess you cannot then.

The rules say what you can do, not what you cannot.

In the UK, rules and laws are enabling - they tell you only and exactly what you can do. In the US, rules and laws are limiting, they only tell you what you cannot do. Remember that the game of 40k is played in both areas and the dev team is aware of that.
Players in the US and UK conceptualize rules differently.

Even if you are correct, it is quite common for small oversights and omissions in a new book. In this case, there is a rule that could possibly apply to both. It is quite reasonable to
extend the rule to a similar situation that isn't explicitly covered, in the US anyhow. It is mostly for the US that the GW FAQ comes out, actually, since we're asking these kind of rule extension questions.

If I understand your position, you say "no. because it isn't explicitly in the rule book" Granted. However, should the FAQ clarify the rule to explicitly state it?

The rules of 40k, like most games, are permissive - becuase its easier to write rules that way

No, because vehicles are not the same thing as Buildings.

Buildings share SOME rules with vehicles, and change specific other rules. These are some of them.