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This issue came up recently. I'm assuming you cannot embark on a valk, move 18" and then gravshoot all in the same turn.
I'm positive this is treated as a standard embark/disembark, cannot do both on same turn.

My IG opponent dissagrees.

Point to the rules in the 6th edition book page 72ish (Going from memory on page since it's out in the car and it's pouring out) about how you cannot voluntarily embark and disembark in the same turn.

Two things: A unit cannot voluntarily embark and disembark in the same turn, and a unit can only disembark if the vehicle didn't move or moved 6" or less. See pages 78 and 79 of the Rulebook.

He is claiming Gravshoot is different than disembark.

jake666666 wrote:He is claiming Gravshoot is different than disembark.

Well, your question had two parts.

First you asked if a unit could embark onto a flyer that is going to move 18", and we have to presume you're talking about a zoom move (18-36" in the movement phase) and the answer to that is: no the flyer rules prohibit a unit from embarking onto a zooming flyer.

So since that first part of the question was 'no' the rest of your question is moot.


But if you're just asking straight up if Grav Chute Insertion can be used by a zooming flyer, the answer is yes, but RAW it would currently only be in the shooting phase after the Valk/Vendetta has moved flat-out (gave up its shooting to move) because they didn't FAQ it the same way as the Blood Angel codex for the Storm Raven. However, I think it is likely they're supposed to be able to use Grav Chute insertion in the movement phase, even if the vehicle zooms.

yakface wrote:But if you're just asking straight up if Grav Chute Insertion can be used by a zooming flyer, the answer is yes, but RAW it would currently only be in the shooting phase after the Valk/Vendetta has moved flat-out (gave up its shooting to move) because they didn't FAQ it the same way as the Blood Angel codex for the Storm Raven. However, I think it is likely they're supposed to be able to use Grav Chute insertion in the movement phase, even if the vehicle zooms.

I disagree, Grav Chute does not offer any special dispensation allowing the transported unit to disembark during the shooting phase, to allow it to do so would be incorrect.

Drunkspleen wrote:

yakface wrote:But if you're just asking straight up if Grav Chute Insertion can be used by a zooming flyer, the answer is yes, but RAW it would currently only be in the shooting phase after the Valk/Vendetta has moved flat-out (gave up its shooting to move) because they didn't FAQ it the same way as the Blood Angel codex for the Storm Raven. However, I think it is likely they're supposed to be able to use Grav Chute insertion in the movement phase, even if the vehicle zooms.

I disagree, Grav Chute does not offer any special dispensation allowing the transported unit to disembark during the shooting phase, to allow it to do so would be incorrect.

"If the Valkyrie has moved flat-out, passengers may still disembark, but they must do so as follows."


How does that not say that the unit is allowed to disembark after having moved flat-out (which happens in the shooting phase)?

At the start of his turn, he embarked his squad onto his hovering Valk. He then zoomed 18" and then disembarked his unit via gravshoot insertion.

Again, I say no.

jake666666 wrote:At the start of his turn, he embarked his squad onto his hovering Valk. He then zoomed 18" and then disembarked his unit via gravshoot insertion.

Again, I say no.

A vehicle cannot start the turn hovering and then zoom. It is one or the other. We have already explained that your original example was not allowed by the rules so I'm not sure what else you're looking for.

Grav chute is a disembark, says so right in the sentence. Can't do both in a single turn.