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Am I reading this right?

p72 - You are forbidden to Ram while turboing (in shooting phase)...

So... at best case, a LandRaider can only get a S8 ram (in movement phase)??? [edited for correct STR]

So... the only reliable rammer in the game is the DeffRolla?



Also, Waveserpent's best is S7... ugh...

Not being able to disembark after deffrolla is a nerf too.

In my opinion, vehicles took a HUGE hit in 6th, They're weaker, slower, less resilient, and less flexible.

It's ok, Last Edition:

1 pt for tank

4 for a Land Raider (every point above 10)

1 for every 3" moved (so 4 if it moved 12)

So S9

Now:

1 for tank

4 for a Land Raider (every point above 10)

1 for every 3" moved (so 4 if it moved 12.)

That's a total of S9.

It's exactly the same! This is a huge nerf. I call shenanigans Games Workshop!

Crazyterran FTW!

What it nerfs are Fast vehicles and Skimmers which should not be ramming anyway.

Crazyterran wrote:It's ok, Last Edition:

1 pt for tank

4 for a Land Raider (every point above 10)

1 for every 3" moved (so 4 if it moved 12)

So S9

Now:

1 for tank

4 for a Land Raider (every point above 10)

1 for every 3" moved (so 4 if it moved 12.)

That's a total of S9.

It's exactly the same! This is a huge nerf. I call shenanigans Games Workshop!

Wuz born to be a bozz... not a mek...

So, yeah, it nerfs fast vehicle ramming (and even the late game obj grabbing)

whembly wrote:

Crazyterran wrote:It's ok, Last Edition:

1 pt for tank

4 for a Land Raider (every point above 10)

1 for every 3" moved (so 4 if it moved 12)

So S9

Now:

1 for tank

4 for a Land Raider (every point above 10)

1 for every 3" moved (so 4 if it moved 12.)

That's a total of S9.

It's exactly the same! This is a huge nerf. I call shenanigans Games Workshop!

Wuz born to be a bozz... not a mek...

So, yeah, it nerfs fast vehicle ramming (and even the late game obj grabbing)

Well, yeah, you can't capture or deny objectives from within vehicles anymore, so.. :(

And it's a nerf to fast vehicles, but most fast vehicles where not tanks (unless you are a Blood Angel, but Blood Angels Land Raiders didn't get the magical engine.)

kjolnir wrote:In my opinion, vehicles took a HUGE hit in 6th, They're weaker, slower, less resilient, and less flexible.

Not sure where you're getting slower, since all vehicles have 18" of total move after flat out now (12" in 5th), fast vehicles have 24" (after flat out, up 6" from 5th), fast skimmers flat out for 30" and a Supersonic flyer can move flat out for a total of 60". Seems vehicles are faster than ever to me.

Yes, but not faster + hitting things at the same time.
Which brings to mind, can ork planes now suicide-ram other fliers? that would be hilarious.

DakkaHammer wrote:Yes, but not faster + hitting things at the same time.
Which brings to mind, can ork planes now suicide-ram other fliers? that would be hilarious.

They're not Tanks, so no.

Would be awesome if they could, though.

leohart wrote:What it nerfs are Fast vehicles and Skimmers which should not be ramming anyway.

Do you realize how often I've pissed off my opponent by Ramming with a Wave Serpent? Wave Serpents drop off their cargo then become battering rams zooming around 24" crashing through other vehicles (except my brothers Land Raider, somehow I always manage to blow myself up against it while it only gets Shakened...)

it was even better with a falcon. ah good old days