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Big Mek 35
15 lootas 225
15 lootas 225
15 lootas 225
30 shoota boyz w/ nob, pk, BP 220
30 shoota boyz w/ nob, pk, BP 220
3 zzap guns 90
3 kannons 60
3 lobbas 75


Leaves me a bit over 100 points to dress up the mek. With overwatch and what not, would this list at least work somewhat for fun casual games? Thinking of letting them run into me for the most part.
   
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Here is what do.

If you have more shoota boys I would drop each of those squads of boyz to make room for one more squad of shoota boys.
OR Drop the lootas to 12 each and drop the boyz to 25 each including the nob to make room for one more squad of boys with guns.

3 man teams of lootas at 12 each into giving big mek a KFF and run him with a squad of slugga choppa if you have too. Just get more boys for objective taking and more firepower!

   
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waaaaghboss wrote:Big Mek 35
could give him a Shokk attack gun (SAG)
15 lootas 225
15 lootas 225
15 lootas 225
Lootas are great, keep them like they are.
30 shoota boyz w/ nob, pk, BP 220
30 shoota boyz w/ nob, pk, BP 220
Could split these into 3 squads of 20, having another PK is not a bad thing.
3 zzap guns 90
3 kannons 60
3 lobbas 75
I would make these all Kannons. Zzaps are to expensive, Lobbas could be useful with the new rules. But Kannons are the best IMHO.


Leaves me a bit over 100 points to dress up the mek. With overwatch and what not, would this list at least work somewhat for fun casual games? Thinking of letting them run into me for the most part.


I think this list could do pretty well. All depends on rolls with the Lootas. They are key along with the Kannons. Should be some fun to be had by all.
   
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try it out and see if it works- with the new edition a lot of older ork tactics have been negated (No more nob cheese, boys less good, cover weakened)

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balsak_da_mighty wrote:
waaaaghboss wrote:Big Mek 35
could give him a Shokk attack gun (SAG)
15 lootas 225
15 lootas 225
15 lootas 225
Lootas are great, keep them like they are.
30 shoota boyz w/ nob, pk, BP 220
30 shoota boyz w/ nob, pk, BP 220
Could split these into 3 squads of 20, having another PK is not a bad thing.
3 zzap guns 90
3 kannons 60
3 lobbas 75
I would make these all Kannons. Zzaps are to expensive, Lobbas could be useful with the new rules. But Kannons are the best IMHO.

Leaves me a bit over 100 points to dress up the mek. With overwatch and what not, would this list at least work somewhat for fun casual games? Thinking of letting them run into me for the most part.


I think this list could do pretty well. All depends on rolls with the Lootas. They are key along with the Kannons. Should be some fun to be had by all.



Ok, was just doing 3 of each because I somehow ended up with the 3 of each type of gun barrel. If kannons are the shootiest though, I can always just convert some stuff over. The theme I'm going with seems to be sit and shoot, so should I just have no fast attack options? I have some sprues with what I think are buggies, so I could run a squad of TL rokkit buggies for more shooty.
   
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You're going to struggle against land raiders, even if you make all of the big gunz kannons, you'd struggle to glance one to death. PK warboss maybe?

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I've always wanted to do orkish gunline.

Kans > big guns

I think a KFF is mandatory, but nerfed in 6e

I would drop the lootas squads to 9 each and use the points for more boys or a bunch of grots

tons of grots. bubblewrap the squishy stuff just like the IG gunline does.

   
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jcress410 wrote:I've always wanted to do orkish gunline.

Kans > big guns

I think a KFF is mandatory, but nerfed in 6e

I would drop the lootas squads to 9 each and use the points for more boys or a bunch of grots

tons of grots. bubblewrap the squishy stuff just like the IG gunline does.



Sounds good, I've always liked the look/style of guard and replicating it with orks would be nice (mostly because I own orks!). I actually have a ton of those generic plastic 2nd ed grots painted up, so I could bulk up some squads to bubble wrap with. I even have 2 imp guard basaliks i picked up years ago to use as looted, which I might swap in for one of my gun lines. Taking on strong stuff like landraiders might be a big problem, would a squad or two of buggies with TL rokkits be viable? I'd hate to shift the theme of the army away from the impy ork thing though.

Edit: Kans are fun, but I sold all mine years ago and I'm trying to use what I still have left Plus I like the look of big guns with little grots manning them! If I go mek, I could add in a deff dread as a troop choice... Which leads me to a question. I've collected up tons of old orks over the years, and what is striking is how tiny they are compared to the current line of models. Can I still use old models, like the old 1 piece ghazkull thraka, as current models, or is the size thing an issue? I have what I think is RT or 2nd ed ork dreadnaught, but sizewize it's almost a bit smaller than a kan. Can I still field it as a dreadnaught? It has 4 weapons and a tiny grot head poking out the pilot seat!

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Also consider dakkajets at 130pts with upgrades they give lootas a run for the money.

1 Dakkajet w/xtra TL Shootas and Fighter Ace 130
9 shots at BS 3 rerollable=6-7 hits

9 Lootas 135
18 shots (on average) BS 2=6 hits

S6, pinning with the jet and a S7 with the lootas. However in the turn of a waaagh that jet gets twice as many shots so about 13 hits, and if you are packing 2 wierdboys/warpheads you can get several turns of waaaghs. I'm hot saying replace lootas but for 1500 I am leaning to:

Warphead 85
Warphead 85
20 Boyz w/ shootas -Nob -PK -BP 2xBig Shootas 170
20 Boyz w/ shootas -Nob -PK -BP 2xBig Shootas 170
20 Boyz w/ shootas -Nob -PK -BP 1xBig Shootas 165
Lootasx15 225
Lootasx15 225
Dakkajet -Fighter Ace -Extra TL Shoota 130
Dakkajet -Fighter Ace -Extra TL Shoota 130
Kanzx3 Rokkits 150
Kanzx3 Zookas 135
1500

You could also switch out a Warphead for a KFF with no change to the rest of the list.

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jcress410 wrote:I've always wanted to do orkish gunline.

Kans > big guns
Kans and Big guns can do both the same job as far as shooting goes. But if you want a mobile based army then the KAns are the better rout, but also double expensive.
I think a KFF is mandatory, but nerfed in 6e
I don't think it got Nerfed, i think it became more balanced. Still worth the points if you run alot of vehicles.
I would drop the lootas squads to 9 each and use the points for more boys or a bunch of grots
Why? 9 you are not fearless. 60 boys is pretty good for a shooty list. Amries are going to have a hard time getting up there with 45 Lootas shooting at them. Don't get grots.
tons of grots. bubblewrap the squishy stuff just like the IG gunline does.
Grots are so a waste of points. I can guarantee someone is going to snipe the Herder so now those grots are LD5. By grots. Why not just take Boys if that be the case. But with the boys its going to be hard to make them even test LD with them being so big of a squad and fearless.


I don't see planes being that great, I am sure everyine will be ready for them and have quad guns on there fortifications or ally with gaurd to have hydras. Or have planes themselves to dog fight with. That 130 points can be used on a BW which will last longer and carry 20 boys. I just don't think they are all that great. Fliers are just goinging to be a gimmick model for people to buy. I just haven't found a real good use for them. Other then a waste of points.

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Hargus that's a neat list.

I'd rather have 3 squads of 10 lootas than 2 of 15 though.

Really at 1500 points I'd rather have 2 squads of 10 lootas and use extra points from that and dropping one of the warpheads to fill out the shoota squads.

OP: You should feel fine using old models even though they're small. I've never really heard anyone seriously complain about this, though it's easy to abuse with old vehicles. WYSIWYG matters more than size.

   
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I'd drop the Zzap guns for more Kannons. Zzap guns are very unreliable. I'd also suggest dropping the Boyz mobs to 20 to afford more toys.

Warpheads are good choices for shooty HQs. Stick them in with the Boyz and they have Ld 10, can reroll on their table, hopefully get some Zzaps and/or Frazzles going, or teleport your Boyz onto an objective, etc.

Shokk Attack Gun is another good shooty HQ, which I use almost every game. Sure they're also hit-or-miss with Str rolls but it's still an AP2 ordnance large blast pie plate being thrown down regardless of the strength it rolls. Bring an Ammo Runt to reroll scatter die rolls on high-strength shots. They can decimate TEQs.
   
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zverofaust wrote:I'd drop the Zzap guns for more Kannons. Zzap guns are very unreliable. I'd also suggest dropping the Boyz mobs to 20 to afford more toys.

Warpheads are good choices for shooty HQs. Stick them in with the Boyz and they have Ld 10, can reroll on their table, hopefully get some Zzaps and/or Frazzles going, or teleport your Boyz onto an objective, etc.

Shokk Attack Gun is another good shooty HQ, which I use almost every game. Sure they're also hit-or-miss with Str rolls but it's still an AP2 ordnance large blast pie plate being thrown down regardless of the strength it rolls. Bring an Ammo Runt to reroll scatter die rolls on high-strength shots. They can decimate TEQs.


Defiantly putting in a shokk attack gun, it just sounds amazingly orky. So far I can build up 6 kannons and 3 lobbas. Might convert the 2 basalisks I have to looted vehicle with the big gun.
   
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If you go with a SAG Mek, put it in with a battery of Kannons and buy extra ammo runts for the Kannons. The SAG Mek can use these (as he is part of the unit and anything in the unit can benefit from the ammo runt) and re-roll a scatter nearly every turn if he wants to
   
 
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