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Nasty Nob






How do you resolve a tank shock against a unit that is sitting in the new purchasable terrain piece landing pad?

Similarly, what if they are in a multi level ruin terrain, and not on the ground floor. Can they be tank shocked then?


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Loyal Necron Lychguard






Palm Beach, FL

For ruins, Vehicles cannot normally move onto the upper floors of a ruin, and cannot Tank Shock units up there. The exception is for Skimmer Tanks, which can Tank Shock without a problem , other than possibly taking a Dangerous Terrain test.

For the Skyshield, it's a Unique terrain piece that essentially works like a hill with Difficult Terrain sides. There's no reason a Vehicle cannot drive up the sides of it, oddly enough. Measure the range to the edge of the Skyshield, take your Dangerous Terrain test, then measure up the side and then over the top. Stupid, but that's what they get for not calling it a baseless ruin
   
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator






Ground vehicles would not be able to reach the unit, so nothing would happen and the tank would just drive under the enemy unit (Tank Shock only triggers if the tank comes into contact with the enemy). Skimmer tanks could do it, though, so if the unit fails its Morale test it'd have to move down the building/ruin as normal.

Edit: ninja'd.

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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

The Skyshield landing pad is an odd piece of terrain.

It is rather large and there looks to be no way down from the landing part of it for vehicles.

Have a look and decide for yourself about vehicles being able to access the top part:

Spoiler:

(Yes that is a Land Raider under the landing pad)

Baneblade for size reference.


Most would say that you can not tank shock a unit on the Landing Pad with a non-skimmer tank.

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Made in ca
Nasty Nob






hmmm, seems to be a bit contentious. Shame they introduced fortifications without properly touching on vehicle interactions with them.

ERJAK wrote:


The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.

 
   
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[MOD]
Making Stuff






Under the couch

DeathReaper wrote:The Skyshield landing pad is an odd piece of terrain.

It is rather large and there looks to be no way down from the landing part of it for vehicles.

And yet the rules for it allow models to move up there just treating it as difficult terrain, and make no exception for vehicles.


Not the best thought out addition to the game, I think.

 
   
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

insaniak wrote:
DeathReaper wrote:The Skyshield landing pad is an odd piece of terrain.

It is rather large and there looks to be no way down from the landing part of it for vehicles.

And yet the rules for it allow models to move up there just treating it as difficult terrain, and make no exception for vehicles.


Not the best thought out addition to the game, I think.

So the vehicle just jumps up there? or whatever magical way of getting up there the designers had in mind.

If it "allow models to move up there just treating it as difficult terrain" then you can move there with or without the off ramp.

There is no on or off ramp, though I guess you could model one onto it.

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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran





Houston, TX

Vehicles definitely cannot get on top or bottom of the skyshield landing pads. It is basically a 1 level ruin.
   
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine





The Netherlands

The moving through difficult terrain part is climbing the ladders on the inside of the support pillars. I don't see a tank climbing those.

   
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Under the couch

DeathReaper wrote:So the vehicle just jumps up there? or whatever magical way of getting up there the designers had in mind.

Apparently, yes.



leohart wrote:Vehicles definitely cannot get on top or bottom of the skyshield landing pads. It is basically a 1 level ruin.

What are you basing that on?



Redemption wrote:The moving through difficult terrain part is climbing the ladders on the inside of the support pillars. I don't see a tank climbing those.

I absolutely agree that it's a little peculiar, but there is absolutely nothing excluding vehicles from being able to move up there just like any other unit, at least not that I can see. Happy to be proven wrong if anyone can find a rule that I've missed.

 
   
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Huge Bone Giant





Oakland, CA -- U.S.A.

Landraiders can appear there mid-game. They are seriously not allowed to leave? I doubt that.

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