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According to the 6th edition rulebook the new rule is Advanced rules override Basic rules.

page 7 of big thick book (BTB)

"where advanced rules apply to a specific model, they always override any contradicting basic rules"

"On rare occasions, a conflict will arise between a rule in this rulebook and one printed in a codex. When this occurs, the rule printed in the codex always takes precedence"

Codex now trumps rulebook.

That said there are a lot of rules that used to be ruled one way for specific overrides general. An example would be death or glory attacks and necrons ressurection protocols. Under the new rules resurrection protocols would work if you fail a death or glory attempt.

anyone think of any rules that were ruled specific versus general before that would change now that codex overrules rulebook?

Specific trumps general still applies in certain situations, as that is a function of a permissive ruleset.

I agree with that, but now if there is a general codex wide rule in a codex for example, it would override a specific rule in the rulebook as codex takes precedence over rulebook for example.

WTN versus walkers and placing grenades.

But what is a Basic rule and an Advanced rule?

Could be that RP is basic, DoG is advanced

Could be WTN is Basic, Grenades is Advanced.

According to page 7 of the rulebook everything in the rulebook is basic and everything in codex is advanced.

"Basic Rules apply to all models in the game..."

"Advanced Rules apply to specific types of models..."

Nothing in those definitions provided necessarily mean what you said is accurate.

Course it could be.

edit for mistypes

And in the instance that both are in conflict, the codex takes precedence.

RP for necrons still would not work for Death or Glory as the wording in the codex requires them to be removed as a casualty however the wording for Death or Glory in the rulebook says they are just removed regardless of wounds, invul saves etc or any other clever way of staying alive, since there is no confliction the rulebook takes precedence.

Advanced > Basic.

but if theres a conflict (ie both advanced, or both basic) then codex > rulebook.

A codex rule that forces a morale check does not outweigh the rulebook rule fearless.

A codex rule that allows you to hit on 3+ MAY outweigh a rulebook rule meaning you only hit on 6s, but there is an argument there, that Im not sure on.

It seems to me that in this case, the Mawloc wins.

Kiredor wrote:Advanced > Basic.

but if theres a conflict (ie both advanced, or both basic) then codex > rulebook.

A codex rule that forces a morale check does not outweigh the rulebook rule fearless.

A codex rule that allows you to hit on 3+ MAY outweigh a rulebook rule meaning you only hit on 6s, but there is an argument there, that Im not sure on.

In your last instance, it could still even be a draw, but then the new core rulesbook tells you to defer to the codex.

We had this discussion on B&C regarding a devastor sergeant using his signum to shoot at flyers. Advanced>Basic, therefore the signum can be used to shoot flyers at BS5. End of story (on this particular situation).

I'm having a difficult time thinking of a situation in which you could have a general rule in a codex, that could conflict with a specific rule in the BRB.

You can't as everyone will assume a rule in the codex is specific while a rule in the book is general.

It has never been rulebook vs codex. It has always been specific over general. This is the same as advanced over basic using different terminology.

Example: ccw is a basic rule. Power sword overrides this rule.

If a rule can be implemented in a larger variety of situations it is a more basic rule. This is more generalized. Advanced rules are implemented only in certain circumstances. Hammer of wrath is only implemented when x y and z occur. Power weapons only work when x occurs. Basically it comes down to the more things that must be met means the rule is more advanced and specific.

Codex normally satisfies this over the rule book but that is not always the case.

Advanced > basic
Is still equivalent to
Specific > general