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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 19:00:14
Subject: Gunslingers
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Dakka Veteran
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Man, I don't know about the rest of you, but 40k night just got a lot more interesting for me with 6th.
Anyone else fancy running a BA vanguard vet squad and giving everyone 2 plasma or 2 infernus pistols? Throw in a priest to mitigate blowing yourself up with plasma, and man, that's a fun unit.
Not cost effective at all, but brutal when you rock up and deliver 22 plasma shots in 12' including the priest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 19:28:52
Subject: Re:Gunslingers
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Thats actually not a bad unit, it would eliminate alot of units from weight of fire alone.
22 Plasma shots vs,
T3 to 5 = 12 wounds(and .6 casualties from Gets Hot)
T6 = 9 wounds(and .6 casualties from Gets Hot)
T7 = 7 wounds(and .6 casualties from Gets Hot)
T8 = 4 wounds(and .6 casualties from Gets Hot)
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 19:30:39
Subject: Gunslingers
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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What is that, like 600 points?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 19:46:29
Subject: Gunslingers
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Dakka Veteran
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It's 625 points for the squad and like 100 for the priest.
Again, not optimal, but I'd like to see anyone want to charge and get overwatched by them as well lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 19:58:39
Subject: Re:Gunslingers
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Well, it certainly is expensive and will most likely be butchered by anything with long ranged fire power or AV13...but dammit, it sounds so cool to watch.
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 20:14:02
Subject: Gunslingers
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Manchester, UK
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I'm liking the idea of gunslingers too. May try out a five man storm trooper squad, with two plasmaguns and two plasma pistols. That is a pretty nice little deep strike unit, which may be able to land in just the right place to gut a unit of all of its valuable members.
The other idea is to give all of the platoon sergeants double plasma. Very expensive but all of that precision shooting plasma sounds fun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 20:17:29
Subject: Gunslingers
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Dakka Veteran
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What's also a neat idea is a jump pack squad of guys with 2x bolt pistols to put out some withering fire at 12' that's still on the cheap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 22:41:55
Subject: Gunslingers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
St. George, UT
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If all nobs are characters, then all nob bikers are characters, then all nob bikers who roll a 6 with their TL dakkaguns get to assign where the wound goes. That will be half of all hits rolled.
I want you, you, you, that guy over there, and the dude who's eyes are painted crosseyed to have to make saves.
That sounds like gun slinging to me. LOL.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 22:47:05
Subject: Re:Gunslingers
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Grey Templar wrote:Thats actually not a bad unit, it would eliminate alot of units from weight of fire alone.
22 Plasma shots vs,
T3 to 5 = 12 wounds(and .6 casualties from Gets Hot)
T6 = 9 wounds(and .6 casualties from Gets Hot)
T7 = 7 wounds(and .6 casualties from Gets Hot)
T8 = 4 wounds(and .6 casualties from Gets Hot)
600 points gets you 24 sternguard. At the same distance that's 16 casualties vs MEQ(1.3 dead from Gets Hot), and 26.6 wounds on T5 and above, with no Gets Hot.
So, meh.
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Unnessesarily extravegant word of the week award goes to jcress410 for this:
jcress wrote:Seem super off topic to complain about epistemology on a thread about tactics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 22:52:02
Subject: Re:Gunslingers
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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I didn't say it was a good unit
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 22:54:07
Subject: Gunslingers
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Furious Fire Dragon
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It would be pretty fun to watch though, you guys are right. hehe
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No one Provokes me with Impunity
Atlas' Blood Oath - In progress, 22W 14L 4T (2012) - 14W 6L 0T (2013)
Craftworld Mymeara 440 points - in progress (....sort of a given ) - 4W 2L 0T (2013)
DQ:90S++G+M-B--IPw40k13++D++++A+/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
Where beautiful and brilliant people go to hang out - Lord Sanguinius' fb page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/05 23:38:46
Subject: Gunslingers
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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I'm currently debating taking an Archon with 2x Blast Pistols, a Djinn Blade and the usual survivability gubbinz.
Two strength 8 AP 2 shots is nothing to sniff at, especially with BS 7. The range isn't great, but with the fleet change and the random charge distance, I'll be dropping my assault squads off closer to their intended targets than usual anyways. If I'm 6" from the enemy or closer in my shooting phase, that just means I'm all the more likely to get into assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 01:43:02
Subject: Gunslingers
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I will say though that Tyrands will be piles of mush on entry with these guys.
Then again, that was sort of the way it was before...
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No one Provokes me with Impunity
Atlas' Blood Oath - In progress, 22W 14L 4T (2012) - 14W 6L 0T (2013)
Craftworld Mymeara 440 points - in progress (....sort of a given ) - 4W 2L 0T (2013)
DQ:90S++G+M-B--IPw40k13++D++++A+/fWD-R++T(T)DM+
Where beautiful and brilliant people go to hang out - Lord Sanguinius' fb page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 02:29:47
Subject: Gunslingers
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
Chicago, IL, USA
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I'd be tempted to try it with hand flamers, actually. The sheer weight of fire if you could actually place all 22 templates would terrorize any infantry unit.
Also, no one in his right mind would ever charge them without a great deal of trepidation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 04:34:00
Subject: Gunslingers
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Creeperman wrote: The sheer weight of fire if you could actually place all 22 templates would terrorize any infantry unit.
Ha! I see what you did there!
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Inquisitor Jex wrote:Yeah, telling people how this and that is 'garbage' and they should just throw their minis into the trash as they're not as efficient as XYZ.
Peregrine wrote:So the solution is to lie and pretend that certain options are effective so people will feel better? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/06 04:50:03
Subject: Re:Gunslingers
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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I was thinking of the blood angle vanguard vets, with infernus and plasma pistols, then put them in a drop pod for pinpoint delivery.
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Hyades 1st 5000 Hive Fleet 5000 Iyanden 2500
Ordo Hereticus retinue 3000 Farsight Enclave 5000 Ahriman's Guard 2000
Salamanders 3000
Blackmane's Best 2500 |
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