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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/08 00:01:52
Subject: Ever-Living and going to ground
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Fresh-Faced New User
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A lone Necron with Ever-Living goes to ground to save himself from attack but is slain regardless. He subsequently makes his Ever-Living roll and is put back into play.
So the question is, is he still gone to ground when we comes back?
We played it so that he came back in the state he left and was still gone to ground but it is less than clear to me from the rules if he should stay in ground or comes in fresh with 1 wound.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/08 00:03:41
Subject: Ever-Living and going to ground
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Tilter at Windmills
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GtG. He's still the same unit. He's not a new unit. Unless you want him to be worth another KP, which would be absurd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/02 00:15:17
Subject: Re:Ever-Living and going to ground
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Reading over the GtG rules again I notice the statement
"If a unit is forced to move, for example the have to Fall Back, it returns to normal immediately" (BRB page 18).
Since the model moves when I put the character back into play this would that not apply?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/08 00:32:12
Subject: Ever-Living and going to ground
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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No,because it's not movement. If it was, it would count against your normal movement for the turn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/08 01:03:30
Subject: Re:Ever-Living and going to ground
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I find that argument rather weak. The will in pretty much all cases have moved it's regular move when your character dies. Also there are plenty of movement that defies that claim since you can do consolidation moves, fall backs, pile in moves disembarks, emergency disembarks to name some.
From another angle, if your unit is killed and removed you remove all associated markers or counters. A dead necron is quite dead until the ever living check is made (and will remain dead if it fails). The counter is there to so you can determine the placement of the resurrected model and as a reminder.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/08 01:59:04
Subject: Re:Ever-Living and going to ground
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Well, if the cryptek is reanimating into a (still) pinned unit, then it is out of luck wether or not the model itself is currently pinned. Even if the model is the only one left from that unit, it is still considered a part of it and thus subject to anything currently effecting it. (but can you imagine? the other way around necron units would be kill-point management nightmares for their controllers under certain conditions)
On the other hand, if placing the model on the board either in coherancy with it's unit or 3 inches from the ever-living token counts as 'forced movement' than the 'gone to ground' rule would no longer apply.
I don't see any verbiage explicitly indicating reanimation or ever-living protocols include any of the conventional types of movement, so i'd concur with anyone saying the model is still 'gone to ground'. I'm fairly sure a model has to traverse a section of the board (or count as doing so: including but not limited to using the deepstrike rules, a player having rolled a difficult terrain check for the unit, and/or certain powers) in order to be considered 'moved'.
Still i do not see anything which undeniably indicates that RP or EL do 'not' count as a form of movement either, so there is that.
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