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Can I take 2 HW in my CCS or PCS?

And if I am making a Gun line do I just leave the CCS empty and just have them bark orders?

No i do not belive so

The presence of the word "other" in that sentance in the codex says to me that you can pick 2 of the vets/pcs members and replace them and them only.

No you may not, the RAW gives only one heavy weapon team per command squad.

Hoppkins wrote:No i do not belive so

The presence of the word "other" in that sentance in the codex says to me that you can pick 2 of the vets/pcs members and replace them and them only.

"other" has nothing to do with this; All it means is that you cannot upgrade a model to carry the Medpack then take the med pack carrier and join him into a HWT(or have him carry a Special weapon).

The bit you need to look at are the numbers.

"Replace two other guardsmen with a Veteran Weapons team..."

If you purchase 2 Veteran Weapons Teams, how many Guardsmen have you replaced?

You know what? I think you may be right. Sure as hell not RAI but RAW? Sure!
The difference here between the command squads and the other squads is just ''other''. ''Replace two guardsmen with a'' is limiting to only replacing two guardsmen and no more, but the CCS/ PCS ''Replace two other veterans/guardsmen..'' is not per se limiting to only replacing one pair for a heavy weapon team.

Now with the FAQ / Errata Vets have changed to the Same Wording as CCS and PCS.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=1000018&pIndex=1&aId=3400019&start=2

Soooo RAW = Vets with 4 Auto Cannons. Woot!!!

I know this can't be right.

Why can't they just Say you can only have X amount and it replaces Y Guardsmen for each X.

In the Codex Its " Replace 2 Veterans with a Veteran Weapons armed with one of the Following :"

FAQ is " Replace 2 other Veterans with a veteran weapons team armed with one of the following:"

Worded Funny.... it must be just 1 per unit. Just do (only one per unit) at the end. Is that so hard GW?


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I'm reading more and more in the codex and I am starting to convince myself that I can have as many HW in a Vet squad or Infantry Squad as I want.

I am going to check fluff now...

It is Clear neither of you understood what I said.

If you were to take 2 HWT(or Veteran Weapons teams); you will have replaced 4 Guardsmen(or Veterans); This is not Legal, you are only allowed to replace 2.

1 Weapons Team per unit excepting Heavy Weapons Squads(which come stock with 3).

Without numbers I get so confused...

Where dose it say I can't replace 2 Guardsmen again?

Then again when does it say I can? (It does say I can do it but not how many times)

The only restriction I can see is that I must be able to replace 2 Guardsmen/Vets.

No where does it say I cannot do it more than once.

I assume if I can do it once then I can do it again till I can no longer replace 2 Guardsmen.

Commissar_Tiberius wrote:Without numbers I get so confused...

Where dose it say I can't replace 2 Guardsmen again?

Then again when does it say I can? (It does say I can do it but not how many times)

The only restriction I can see is that I must be able to replace 2 Guardsmen/Vets.

No where does it say I cannot do it more than once.

I assume if I can do it once then I can do it again till I can no longer replace 2 Guardsmen.

Well, if we keep following that logic, then I can have 4 medics in my squad, or 4 heavy flamers, or four standard bearers, etc. Notice that the option for medic states "one veteran..." and the other options afterward say "one other veteran..." all the way down to special weapons, where it states "any remaining veterans..."

Commissar_Tiberius wrote:Without numbers I get so confused...

Where dose it say I can't replace 2 Guardsmen again?

Then again when does it say I can? (It does say I can do it but not how many times)

The only restriction I can see is that I must be able to replace 2 Guardsmen/Vets.

No where does it say I cannot do it more than once.

I assume if I can do it once then I can do it again till I can no longer replace 2 Guardsmen.

The rules give an exact Count; You may replace 2 Guardsmen for one team.

If you replace 4 Guardsmen for 2 teams you are breaking the rules.

But if you want to claim that you can take the Same upgrade over and Over again, then Why not just take a 50-man Blob Squad with Half of them carrying Plasma guns and the other half carrying Flamers?

Or sticking 20 pairs of MM sponsons on your Leman Russ(6th Edition Snap shots with 40 MM shots means you are likely to get at least a couple few hits).

This thread comes up somewhere around every 9 months; there is always someone claiming that the numbers don't mean anything, and that someone is always wrong.

If you want to see a weapon upgrade that can be taken as many times as you want, look at the Veterans Entry. Shotguns: "any Veteran may replace his lasgun with a Shotgun".

Why can't GW just have written One per Unit like it did in nearly every other Codex?
I think it's because they want to confuse anyone that isn't running SMs.

Commissar_Tiberius wrote:Why can't GW just have written One per Unit like it did in nearly every other Codex?
I think it's because they want to confuse anyone that isn't running SMs.

Quit making me bite my tongue!


Don't worry just had to tell a Space marine player that they cannot buy an infinite amount of Storm Bolters for their Tanks.