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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/11 09:55:46
Subject: ATSKNF and Allies
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hey all,
Looking at fielding a proxy Tyrants Legion list with IG and Allied Space Wolves (just like their loadouts).
Was going to put a wolf priest in a blob of guardsman to anchor my line, and there is nowhere I can see in the FAQ that says anything aobut the Fang of Morkai (allowing joined unit to become fearless)..
But also in the Rulebook with the "And they shall know no fear", it says if one model in the unit has it then the entire model does, so could I just spam some Wolf guard battle leaders into Guardsman squads and give the ATSKNF??
Thanks in advance..
Oh also I call bs to the ole Leman Russ only have 3 HP, utter crap..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/11 11:27:28
Subject: ATSKNF and Allies
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Missionary On A Mission
Richmond Va
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Russ is broken and deserves to have less. That, however is irrelevant in this topic. If a rule spreads to the unit, then it spreads to the unit. There is little question about that. The real question is, can wolf guard be placed in IG units. If in their entry it says put them in SW units then no, you cannot spam them in IG units. As I am not a wolf player I am unsure about the joining rule so you may want to check that, but as far as I know, what you are proposing is leagle.
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My Overprotective Father wrote:Tyrants shooting emplaced weapons? A Hive Tyrant may be smarter than your average bug, but that still isint saying much
Pretre: Are repressors assault vehicles? If they are, I'm gonna need emergency pants.
n0t_u: No, but six can shoot out of it. Other than that it's a Rhino with a Heavy Flamer thrown on if I remember correctly.
Pretre: Thanks! I guess my pants are safe and clean after all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/11 13:38:46
Subject: ATSKNF and Allies
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Oh no you can't add wolf guard, but you could add 2 wolf guard battle leaders as you can take 2 HQ for one in the wolfy dex...
So we now have guardsman that know no fear?...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/11 13:40:57
Subject: ATSKNF and Allies
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Missionary On A Mission
Richmond Va
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I suppuse so. Its a good idea for penals but anything else.....
Eh IDK. Seems like alot of effort just to get them fearless "lite" to me.
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My Overprotective Father wrote:Tyrants shooting emplaced weapons? A Hive Tyrant may be smarter than your average bug, but that still isint saying much
Pretre: Are repressors assault vehicles? If they are, I'm gonna need emergency pants.
n0t_u: No, but six can shoot out of it. Other than that it's a Rhino with a Heavy Flamer thrown on if I remember correctly.
Pretre: Thanks! I guess my pants are safe and clean after all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/11 13:50:54
Subject: Re:ATSKNF and Allies
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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@ the Trans
I'm running something similar to yours but using Blood Angels.
I think the problem you may have is the IC clause in wolfguards i think (and i could be wrong) that they can only lead a select group of units from C:SW
i'm using the HQ as IC to become my guard sgts. (namely Librarian)
ATSKKF transfers (no being swept)
LOS is a 2+
Terminator armor with SS is nice
you can receive orders from CCS/PCS
and cast Divination powers (the kind that help you shoot)
50 man blob squad behind an ADF with "Prescience" and "FRFSRF" is nasty plus you get a force weapon and if someone wants to challenge sacrifice a Sgt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/11 13:58:09
Subject: ATSKNF and Allies
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Just to clarify there is wolf guard (pack leaders) who are elites and can only go to wolfies, then there is wolf guard battle leaders (like a captain) which are a HQ.
Never thought of the ingrained IC gaining from orders, is that legal?
Oh I'm going fluffy-ish with a proxy tyrants legion list (eg astral claws and tyrants legion, using wolfies and guard rules)..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/11 14:05:14
Subject: Re:ATSKNF and Allies
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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yeah IC HQ are the way to go,
as far as legal, pg 39
"while an IC is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for ALL rules purposes"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/11 16:06:21
Subject: ATSKNF and Allies
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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You need to use HQs for this, Wolf Guard have a specific list of what they can join. That list being the standard squads for SWs. Great idea thought and like others have said Wolf Guard Battle Leaders are great for this if you can afford to include them.
Blood Angels are also good for this if you are willing to put your Sanguinary Priests with the IG.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/07/11 16:07:15
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