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I noticed the Fighta Ace Upgrade was not updated in the Ork FAQ.
Doesn't it seem like it should of been updated too include flyers?

As it stands when you use the skyfire rule with the dakka jet you are only hitting other flyers at BS2 unless I missed something.

Okay, when you have skyfire rule or able to shoot a flyer at regular BS, fights ace makes you BS 3 for the perposes of shooting at jetbikes, vehicles with skimmer type or fliers.

Where does it say flyers?

Ah, my bad. But since it's not specified in the rules, it's B2 when shooting other fliers.

Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:Ah, my bad. But since it's not specified in the rules, it's B2 when shooting other fliers.

This is the way it is now, its interesting that the worst flyers in the game got nerfed right out of the gates.

Not really, it's an Ork fighta and it pours out tons of shots. Against everything else (if its upgraded with fighta ace), it's shooting at BS 3.

Name a flyer that is worse, and not an ork varient.

The question was does anyone think the FAQ should of updated too include flyers for fighta ace, you guys know what a question mark means right?

It might be an oversight. Since we have lots of those in the first round of the faqs.

Lepuke wrote:The question was does anyone think the FAQ should of updated too include flyers for fighta ace, you guys know what a question mark means right?

Yes it should be, as that was the intention of the rule from the onset.

tgf wrote:Name a flyer that is worse, and not an ork varient.

For like 100 points you get 9 TL S7 shots that can be resolved against other flyers, or at higher BS for a long list of other targets? It might be the worst flyer, but that doesn't make it bad by any means.

S6 shots

For killing other fliers its pretty good - you are more likely to glance it out the sky than with other, higher strength but lower volume fire where a bad roll on the penetration chart means the flier is still alive.

nosferatu1001 wrote:S6 shots

For killing other fliers its pretty good - you are more likely to glance it out the sky than with other, higher strength but lower volume fire where a bad roll on the penetration chart means the flier is still alive.

Oh, S6 shots actually makes it a lot worse in my eyes. Never mind.

Ostrakon wrote:

tgf wrote:Name a flyer that is worse, and not an ork varient.

For like 100 points you get 9 TL S7 shots that can be resolved against other flyers, or at higher BS for a long list of other targets? It might be the worst flyer, but that doesn't make it bad by any means.

I don't think I said it was bad, just that it was the worst flyer, but for the points cost its not worth taking.

For the points, to give you some skyfire at BS2 *and* TL (making it rouhgly BS3, with a far more constrained curve so more likely to get the expected result) *and* the underused slot it lives in, it is definitely worth taking.

I fail to see how an average of 7 pinning S6 hits against most targets (five against other targets) is bad at 120 points.

It's armor 10 enjoy your 1 round of shooting for 120-135 points. Its a bad play regardless.

I haven't lost a single plane of three in games before they were 6+ to hit, and it's not like they didn't get shot.

Shooting three jets out the sky takes massive amounts of firepower - a lot more than the planes cost. Not to mention that fliers don't come in before turn 2, meaning that a lot of enemy shooting should have orks in their face.