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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 15:39:03
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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HQ:
Warboss
Power Klaw, Warbike, Attack Squig, Cybork
[150]
Warboss
Power Klaw, Warbike, Attack Squig, Cybork, Ammo Runt
[153]
Elite:
5 Lootas
5 Lootas
5 Lootas
[225]
Troops:
(10) Nob Bikers
Painboy, Cybork, 2x PKs, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
[600]
(10) Nob Bikers
Painboy, Cybork, 2x PKs, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
[600]
(19) Gretchin
Runtherd
[67]
(19) Gretchin
Runtherd
[67]
Fortifications:
ADL w/ Quad Gun
[100]
Self explanatory, but double deathstar, gretchen and Lootas for backfield ADL antics and objectives.
I'd like to take this to the qualifiers for Feast of Blades. Any opinions?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/07/16 22:30:37
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 19:00:55
Subject: Re:Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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lol for copypasta from my list. What this doesn't have is reliable anti-air - because that Quad Gun isn't going to do what the three Dakkajets in my list were doing - one turn with 54 TL S6 shots will strip Hull Points fast and furious. You get to put 18 on three targets instead of Lootas going against one target - which 15 is always overkill compared to smaller squads typically.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 21:36:46
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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I did totally rip your list!
=D
I just wondered what it might play like with models I already have to pick up the slack. I'm not going to be able to touch all those shiny new flyers for a while due to cost, so I need to make up the points some how.
Maybe I should split up the Lootas. Since I can't run the flyers, I need some kind of answer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 22:08:40
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Oh yea, Lootas can do the job. Volume of fire counts for a lot.
I would say do a trio of smaller squads if you can. Toss the Aegis and Quad Gun - not worth it, imo. Squeeze in as many Lootas as you can muster.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/16 23:34:58
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cover saves behind the ADL and any antiflyer gun with BS3 should be worth it.
Currently lootas, bikers and the quad gun are good at taking out aeroplanes.
Nob bikers are still very vulnerable to vindicators and grey knights in raiders and storm ravens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/17 01:21:14
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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MFletch wrote:Cover saves behind the ADL and any antiflyer gun with BS3 should be worth it.
Currently lootas, bikers and the quad gun are good at taking out aeroplanes.
Nob bikers are still very vulnerable to vindicators and grey knights in raiders and storm ravens.
But think about the greater metagame - who is taking Vindicators? GK can be dealt with via Precision Strikes. ADL are expensive and the quad gun is not that great. More Lootas will do far better. Especially since ruins are common enough terrain and you can move into them and still Snap Fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/17 15:47:24
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Since objectives are so much more prominent in this edition, do you feel that the low amount of mobile scoring units is at a disadvantage? Or is this all about tabling?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/17 16:57:24
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Whatever suits the mission, really. I can't recall if you can claim multiple objectives off one unit, but if so, you can conga line to multiples after beating the enemy up for a bit and rendering them less mobile than yourself. Placing objectives will be important, but really four scoring units isn't that bad when two of them ate such potent deathstars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/17 23:21:21
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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You can't do the conga line double objective thing anymore sadly. Although I'd still vote for losing one of your grot units and getting a few more lootas. You can never have enough lootas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/18 23:46:52
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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em_en_oh_pee wrote:But think about the greater metagame - who is taking Vindicators?
Probably everyone. ap2 is rare so termies are now a great idea, so a big gun that kills a great idea will be common. It can also pop tanks quite well now, whilst units will get out of tanks to claim objectives so a template that kills MEQ is what is needed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/19 00:30:06
Subject: Warbikers and Grots 2k
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Maybe. Still easy to avoid and a 4+ cover save is handy. If you are smart, you will neutralize those first.
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