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The Hive Guard rule says: "The Impaler cannon can shoot any target in range, regardless of whether there is a line of sigh to it or not."

The rulebook say: "If no models in the firing unit can see a particular model then Wounds cannot be allocated to it and must be instead allocated to the nearest visible model in the target unit. If there are no visible models in the target unit, all remaining Wounds in the pool are lost and the shooting attack ends".

Doesn't that not allowing the Impaler cannon to do much? Sure you can target but you can't allocate wounds.

And no I looked at the recent FAQ, no mention of this.

UPDATE: So wouldn't this mean a lot of things with barrage won't be able to wound units?

The hive tyrant can't take a impaler cannon. Only hive guard get them. and I believe its been FAQed.

Can you quote the page of the FAQ please? I can't find it.

It's not in there. RAW they lost the ability to shoot blind (well, they still can it just doesn't do anything).
Expect it to be FAQed.

Wouldn't this be another example of specific trumps general, ie codex > BTB?

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Wouldn't this be another example of specific trumps general, ie codex > BTB?

There's no conflict. There's nothing in the codex specifying that the guns can cause wounds out of LoS, just the BRB saying they can't.

Small oversight, just don't screw over your local Nid player because of it.

Technically with an impaler cannon you draw LOS from the projectile, not the hive guard. It is the targetting unit (such as it is.)

Gloomfang wrote:Technically with an impaler cannon you draw LOS from the projectile, not the hive guard. It is the targetting unit (such as it is.)

... No. There's no rule saying that. You're trying to apply fluff.

I talked to my friend more on this matter, he said this doesn't make sense because then it makes MoO, Basilisks, Whirlwinds, .... useless.

Do these other cases have a special rule allowing them to wound units they can't see?

Actually barrage around from the center of the blast, so they CAN wound models completely out of LOS.

leohart wrote:I talked to my friend more on this matter, he said this doesn't make sense because then it makes MoO, Basilisks, Whirlwinds, .... useless.

Do these other cases have a special rule allowing them to wound units they can't see?

Barrage weapons have an exception, normal Blast weapons have an exception if they scatter.

There isn't an exception for models like the Hive Guard.

So my IG mortars are still sweet to kill stuff without LOS?

TH3FALL3N wrote:So my IG mortars are still sweet to kill stuff without LOS?

Are they barrage? Read page 34.
Are they just blast? No - you have to scatter to wound something that you can't draw LoS to.