Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

So we're starting a journeyman league with the additional rule that you don't have to use the battlebox contents as your original 11pts. With that in mind I made this list. I've never played cygnar before so please advise.

eNemo
-Ironclad
-Charger

Black 13th
Gun mage captain adept



I have these models to work with. I have to choose 2 casters for the league but can use anything else.

pStryker
pCaine
Seige
eNemo

Lancer
Minuteman
Charger
Ironclad
Defender
Thunderhead

Black 13th

Gunmage Captain Adept
Journeyman Warcaster
Reinholt

I plan on getting some stormguard as points go up.

It's not bad considering your limitations (small points value being the biggest). You're counting on your Ironclad killing his heavy. You have little screening for Nemo and he's pretty squishy. I can see problems with two heavy 'jack lists or assassin lists (i.e. most Khador and Cryx lists). Stormguard will help with screening Nemo. The Thunderhead would be ideal as he's a versatile jack that can fry infantry and fist pound tough stuff. Small points is all about synergies and versatility.

You've got the versatility here, but are lacking in synergies. Base Caine might be a better caster as you have more stuff that syncs with him. Chargers and defenders work will as jacks for him. A sniped Defender makes your foe whine (20" range). He also can line up the assassin run using the Black 13th as bait. People do odd things to keep their precious models from getting shot.

If you stick with Nemo I'd drop the GMCA and upgrade the Charger to a Lancer. That way Nemo can stay back a bit further and arc spells.
And with Disruption Field on the Ironclad (makes it P&S20) and Electrify on the Lancer you can handle most enemy jacks with ease.

I just realized first week is mangled metal so I can't take units/solos. That in mind I made a pCaine list that I really like, ive actually already bought the secound charger I need.

pCaine
Charger
Charger
Defender

for eNemo I'll have to drop the black 13th so I guess I'll just replace them with a charger? So for them it will be battlebox contents replacing strkyer with eNemo

eNemo
Charger
Lancer
Ironclad

or I could do

eNemo
Minuteman
Thunderhead

Putting Lightingshroud on the Thunderhead will make him into a decent beatstick and Polarity shield on the minuteman will keep him from being charged and let me fire off those slug guns. Thunderhead might not be the best choice though considering there won't be any units for him to shock.

There won't be an units but there will be a warcaster. Use the Thunderhead's pulse to auto hit. Then use the remaining two shots from the lightning coils to finish them. The defense of the caster doesn't matter as all of it auto hits.