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While reading over the frag grenade rules, I remembered that Land Raider Crusaders are equipped with frag grenade launchers. While this still may provide the advantages in assaulting into cover, would an LRC be able to launch frag grenades when it deploys troops for assaults? It would certainly make it more useful for open-field assaults. And would it then count as a destroyable weapon?

I'm inclined to say no as the codex states what they do......but what you're saying make a kind of sense.

This is a good question.

I don't think there is any precedence on this because the ability to throw frag grenades is new to this edition. I think it's going to be difficult to find actual rules governing this beyond the lines written in the codex specifically for the frag assault launcher.

Codex : Space Marines tells you what the frag assault launchers do. They allow passengers who assault after disembarking from the LRC to be considered to have frag grenades for the purposes of charging units in cover. So you'll still get your extra attacks for charging, but you don't get to throw a free blast template.

As for using the Frag Launcher to eat up a "weapon destroyed" result - I will defer to more experienced rules lawyers. But my gut feeling is no, you can't.

EDIT : changed punctuation.

If I'm not mistaken, the entry for Frag Launchers falls under Vehicle Wargear - and not weapons. Therefore, it's no more valid for Weapon Destroyed as a dozer blade, or smoke launchers. As for whether the grenades can be thrown - this is covered by the wording "for the purposes of charging units in cover". That means that's the only purpose you are counted as having the grenades for, you don't count as having them to "throw" in the Shooting phase.

I don't have my BTB on me right now, but when exactly is the greande attack resolved?

According to the new entry in the Digital version of Codex: Space Marines, it allows you to treat all models disembarking from the Land Raider as if they had frag grenades (this is the same wording as before). Frag Grenades are assault grenades, and can be thrown as per their profile in the BRB.

This means that in the movement phase, you could disembark your unit form the Land Raider, Then in the Shooting Phase, one model in the unit may throw a frag grenade, even if there are no models in the unit that have frag grenades as wargear. (as per the assault grenade rules for the shooting phase)

Well, sounds like the Crusader got a little cooler...

CanisLupus518 wrote:According to the new entry in the Digital version of Codex: Space Marines, it allows you to treat all models disembarking from the Land Raider as if they had frag grenades (this is the same wording as before). Frag Grenades are assault grenades, and can be thrown as per their profile in the BRB.

This means that in the movement phase, you could disembark your unit form the Land Raider, Then in the Shooting Phase, one model in the unit may throw a frag grenade, even if there are no models in the unit that have frag grenades as wargear. (as per the assault grenade rules for the shooting phase)

I don't have the digital copy to check, but is the wording in the digital copy actually different from the wording in the hard copy? I hope not, because that's going to bring up a whole bunch of issues about which one takes precedence.

The wording itself is not different. They have just added the shooting profile of the frag grenade to the entry (same as in the BRB) and restate the assault grenade rules from the BRB. It's not new or different info, it just brings them together into one place.

I should also point out that I do not own the digital codex, but I do have the free sample on my iPad which has a full reference section for these sort of rules.