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I am wondering how this set up would do against SM, and I would any feedback, whether it be ppositive or very negative or suggestions or anything pretty much.
Troops:

8 Nob Bikers, w/ 3 PK, 2 BC, 1 Waaaagh! Banner, 1 boss pole, 1 Painboy, 1 ammo runt, 1 Grot orderly.
- 543 Points

2x 20 Shoota Boys w/ 1 nob PK, BP, eavy armour. 2 big shootas.
- 350 Points

Elites:

8 Nob Bikers, w/ 3 PK, 2 BC, 1 Waaaagh! Banner, 1 boss pole, 1 Painboy, 1 ammo runt, 1 Grot orderly.
- 543 Points

15 Lootas
- 225 Points

HQ:

Warboss w/ bike PK, eavy armour, cybork body
- 140 Points

Big Mek KFF, w/ PK eavy armour
- 115 Points

Warboss w/ PK

Thank you for reading, and commenting!


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Really can't anyone help? Just looking for some feedback.


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Really? Cant anyone help? Just looking for some feedback.

Careful of Vendi and tank shocks. Otherwise, seems legit.

drop the big mek with KFF. you dont need him at all. drop your warboss thats footslogging. every model with a warbike now automatically gets a 4 plus cover save. drop anything on foot and get more bikers/nob bikers. you can do it. drop anything that gives you a 4+ armor because the warbike automatically give you 4+ armor and a 4+ cover save due to smoke screen ork special rule. use Wazzdakka Gutsmek HQ making all your warbikers troop choice. drop the ammo runts because your going to be shooting enough to drop dice on whatever your shooting at so you wont need him. the grot orderly is fine, but me personally i wouldnt take him. boss poles are fine. if you find them useful and you always role what you need for them then use them. i dont like them because i always seem to fail the boss pole role so i throw the 5pts somewhere else. max out your nob bikers to 10 in each unit.
BOOM! awesome army right there. go kick some ass!


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also make sure to have enough PKs in each unit and dont worry about the initiative 1 negative bikers get the hammer of wrath special rule which allows them to make an automatic hit at base models S and AP- if in base contact when they charged and its resolved before anyone else goes because its at initiative 10.

Not enough bikers, everything is going at a different pace.

I would recommend:

HQ
Wazdakka 180p
Warboss with Warbike and PK 125P

Troops
7 Warbikers 1 Nob with BP and PK 215p
7 Warbikers 1 Nob with BP and PK 215p
7 Warbikers 1 Nob with BP and PK 215p
7 Warbikers 1 Nob with BP and PK 215p
7 Warbikers 1 Nob with BP and PK 215p
7 Warbikers 1 Nob with BP and PK 215p
7 Warbikers 1 Nob with BP and PK 215p
7 Warbikers 1 Nob with BP 190p

2000p lacks long range AT for above AV11 though.
But with turboboost sheer ton of firepower wounds toughness it's nigh on unkillable.

Really? You don't think I should keep the Lootas? And what about a Bomber or jet or something?

Bommers and dakkajets would mesh in with this army very well.

Otherwise, I would take Wazdakka and a Warboss on a bike (T6 = immune to instant death for the most part).

One squad of nob bikers as troops.
One squad of nob bikers as elites
Warbikers for troops.

Flyers as appropriate.
If possible, I would add a squadron of rokkit buggies for a little extra AT firepower.

However, compared to their SM equivalents, I find ork warbikers come up a bit short. While they do have a slightly stronger weapon, SM can take special weapons to make up for it. Point wise, you are the same, yet SM get a 3+ armor and 5+ jink to your 4+ armor / 4+ cover (no need to jink ever).

So, with that being said, I think the nob bikers would be your main focus of the army with everything else supporting them.

if your gonna run bike run all bikes so far its the best ork build in 6th. lootas are good but bikes are awesome.

Definately bringing out the metal bawks out...

Check this list out:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/379582.page#3015728

I may retire 1 or 2 deffkopta for a DakkaJet or a Kannon battery behind an Aegis Defense wall. Still pondering...

whembly wrote:Definately bringing out the metal bawks out...

Check this list out:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/379582.page#3015728

I may retire 1 or 2 deffkopta for a DakkaJet or a Kannon battery behind an Aegis Defense wall. Still pondering...

That list would work in 6th. Again i would try all bikers if you can and see how that goes. I garuntee that would soak up some fire. Dont go all crazy on the load outs for your nobz so you can get more bikes. A heavy biker list with ork flyer support would be interesting to see as well.

Yeah but I am not all about winning, I mean winning is lots of fun. But I have a feeling too many bikers would just get boring....

Boring??? Whaaaa... Thats why i play orks theyre not OP and when you a build that wrecks shop you can still fun with them because theyre orks and, as suggested above, run an entire bike army would be epic. Where have you seen that done before? Not in a long while im sure.


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If you dont want to try a whole biker army gor for bikers with air support. I know once all my bikes are built and have played some matches try using the flyers with bikes. I think it would be fun and competitive.

Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:Boring??? Whaaaa... Thats why i play orks theyre not OP and when you a build that wrecks shop you can still fun with them because theyre orks and, as suggested above, run an entire bike army would be epic. Where have you seen that done before? Not in a long while im sure.


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If you dont want to try a whole biker army gor for bikers with air support. I know once all my bikes are built and have played some matches try using the flyers with bikes. I think it would be fun and competitive.

Haha yeah your right playing Orks can never be boring, but where do I get nob bikers? Should I make them? And I only have a couple bikers at the moment. Do you guys know of any cheaper than GW site in the US where I can order them?

I kitbash the biker squads with a pack of nobz and the results are pretty good. Usually you have to chop a leg off of a nob or two to get them to fit, but then I use stikk bombz as peg legs and there you go wysiwyg cybork!

Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:drop the big mek with KFF. you dont need him at all.

He may be awful compared to 5th edition, but he is needed with footslogging orks, as cover is just to rare and is per model, depending on how you plan to use him.

Does anybody have any suggestions for tactics with this army? And or a good color scheme for when I paint this mountain of warbikes?

Yeah for foot slogging orks its good to have the KFF and fot green tide its on the lvl of required.


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But when playing with the suggested list above you would get more from the bikes as they get auto 4+,4+ and for nob bikers 4+,5+,5+ depending on load out.
If the boyz are still going to be used use the KFF but i again say you should drop the KFF and boyz, etc for bikers.

Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:Yeah for foot slogging orks its good to have the KFF and fot green tide its on the lvl of required.


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But when playing with the suggested list above you would get more from the bikes as they get auto 4+,4+ and for nob bikers 4+,5+,5+ depending on load out.
If the boyz are still going to be used use the KFF but i again say you should drop the KFF and boyz, etc for bikers.

Yeah I think I am gonna have all bikerz, dakka jets, some big gunz, and lootas, what clan do you think I should be?

65 bikes...I can't even imagine that. 45$ for 3 bikes...dear lord.

Gharron wrote:65 bikes...I can't even imagine that. 45$ for 3 bikes...dear lord.

Lol that is why I kept asking if it was really neccecary to have all bikes.... Do not worry I have a feeling a lot of the bikes will be conversions from various GW scrap pieces.... I almost feel like a big mek myself

Gabe224 wrote:

Gharron wrote:65 bikes...I can't even imagine that. 45$ for 3 bikes...dear lord.

Lol that is why I kept asking if it was really neccecary to have all bikes.... Do not worry I have a feeling a lot of the bikes will be conversions from various GW scrap pieces.... I almost feel like a big mek myself

That's almost 1000$ in JUST bikes. No thanks lol, I wouldn't play an all bikes list myself. You need more than TL strength 5 dakkaguns. I personally no matter the list will ALWAYS be taking lootas. I'm going to run something close to a green tide bikes list. It's just scarey lol but that's my 2 cents...
Something likes

Warboss
big mek

Nob bikers
lootas lootas

Planes

As many boys as will fit XD

Gabe224 wrote:

Gharron wrote:65 bikes...I can't even imagine that. 45$ for 3 bikes...dear lord.

Lol that is why I kept asking if it was really neccecary to have all bikes.... Do not worry I have a feeling a lot of the bikes will be conversions from various GW scrap pieces.... I almost feel like a big mek myself

Buy AOBR Deffkoptas. If you look at the link in my signature, I've got an example some koptas-bike conversions if you're interested.

Gharron wrote:

Gabe224 wrote:

Gharron wrote:65 bikes...I can't even imagine that. 45$ for 3 bikes...dear lord.

Lol that is why I kept asking if it was really neccecary to have all bikes.... Do not worry I have a feeling a lot of the bikes will be conversions from various GW scrap pieces.... I almost feel like a big mek myself

That's almost 1000$ in JUST bikes. No thanks lol, I wouldn't play an all bikes list myself. You need more than TL strength 5 dakkaguns. I personally no matter the list will ALWAYS be taking lootas. I'm going to run something close to a green tide bikes list. It's just scarey lol but that's my 2 cents...
Something likes

Warboss
big mek

Nob bikers
lootas lootas

Planes

As many boys as will fit XD

Yeah that sounds pretty sick to me, but I mean no matter what list, you cant go wrong with orks !!!

Gharron wrote:

Gabe224 wrote:

Gharron wrote:65 bikes...I can't even imagine that. 45$ for 3 bikes...dear lord.

Lol that is why I kept asking if it was really neccecary to have all bikes.... Do not worry I have a feeling a lot of the bikes will be conversions from various GW scrap pieces.... I almost feel like a big mek myself

That's almost 1000$ in JUST bikes. No thanks lol, I wouldn't play an all bikes list myself. You need more than TL strength 5 dakkaguns. I personally no matter the list will ALWAYS be taking lootas. I'm going to run something close to a green tide bikes list. It's just scarey lol but that's my 2 cents...
Something likes

Warboss
big mek

Nob bikers
lootas lootas

Planes

As many boys as will fit XD

Yeah that is what I was planig. Since my brother plays SM, he could always use the extra SM, and urs look great! Do you think you could post a tut on the conversion?

Gabe224 wrote:

Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:Yeah for foot slogging orks its good to have the KFF and fot green tide its on the lvl of required.


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But when playing with the suggested list above you would get more from the bikes as they get auto 4+,4+ and for nob bikers 4+,5+,5+ depending on load out.
If the boyz are still going to be used use the KFF but i again say you should drop the KFF and boyz, etc for bikers.

Yeah I think I am gonna have all bikerz, dakka jets, some big gunz, and lootas, what clan do you think I should be?

Well traditionly evil sunz is the clan that most bikers are known to come from but i paint mine as goffs because thats my favorite clan

Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:

Gabe224 wrote:

Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:Yeah for foot slogging orks its good to have the KFF and fot green tide its on the lvl of required.


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But when playing with the suggested list above you would get more from the bikes as they get auto 4+,4+ and for nob bikers 4+,5+,5+ depending on load out.
If the boyz are still going to be used use the KFF but i again say you should drop the KFF and boyz, etc for bikers.

Yeah I think I am gonna have all bikerz, dakka jets, some big gunz, and lootas, what clan do you think I should be?

Well traditionly evil sunz is the clan that most bikers are known to come from but i paint mine as goffs because thats my favorite clan

Do you mind putting up some pics of ur Goff, just to give me an idea?

Gabe224 wrote:Do you think you could post a tut on the conversion?

Me? I can put one up if you want.

Maybe try bad moon bikers. You dont see that much and i think it would look cool with lots of bikes with yellow and black flames everywhere.


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Mine arnt painyed yet. Most of my infantry from ly 5th ed lists are though. It takes me forever to paint them


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Basicly they look like the orks on the cover of the current codex but with more black on the pants and shirts. Mine have a bit more red in their checks and dags than what is described as the proper amount for a goff to have.

Dr. What wrote:

Gabe224 wrote:Do you think you could post a tut on the conversion?

Me? I can put one up if you want.

Yeah, cause those bikers look awesome! And is GW gonna stop selling AOBR because of 6th edition?

Gutstuf Ugfang wrote:Maybe try bad moon bikers. You dont see that much and i think it would look cool with lots of bikes with yellow and black flames everywhere.


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Mine arnt painyed yet. Most of my infantry from ly 5th ed lists are though. It takes me forever to paint them


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Basicly they look like the orks on the cover of the current codex but with more black on the pants and shirts. Mine have a bit more red in their checks and dags than what is described as the proper amount for a goff to have.

Oh yeah bad moons with yellow and blake flames would be pretty sweeeeet. I just dont know how to paintblack and yellow flames. I think im gonna go with that! I might make my lootas death sskull just because every ork army needs some blue luck!

Make these!!!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/58968-.html

Gabe224 wrote:

Dr. What wrote:

Gabe224 wrote:Do you think you could post a tut on the conversion?

Me? I can put one up if you want.

Yeah, cause those bikers look awesome! And is GW gonna stop selling AOBR because of 6th edition?

Thanks! It's up in the P&M tutorials section on Dakka.

Sadly, they've become rarer on ebay (or so it seems to me) and will be phased out with a new starter set.

Starless Night wrote:Make these!!!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/58968-.html

Wow! That is a serious mek job!!! Is there a tut?

Dr. What wrote:

Gabe224 wrote:

Dr. What wrote:

Gabe224 wrote:Do you think you could post a tut on the conversion?

Me? I can put one up if you want.

Yeah, cause those bikers look awesome! And is GW gonna stop selling AOBR because of 6th edition?

Thanks! It's up in the P&M tutorials section on Dakka.

Sadly, they've become rarer on ebay (or so it seems to me) and will be phased out with a new starter set.

I am definetely doing that!