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I'm new to these forums but as of right now i have only 1 or 2 friends to bounce my lists off of, and i love making mock lists and getting feedback. so i decided to join.

I have several lists made up but i'll start out slow. Note, i tend to like big expensive units that do awesome things.

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Dante + Sanguinary Guard w/ Chapter banner, Infernus Pistol and Power fist.
This is my go anywhere do anything squad, pretty much gonna have this no matter what

Pedro Kantor +
Reclusiarch w/ infernus pistol +
10 x Death Company w/ 9 power weapons and a power fist +
Landraider Redeemer w/ hunter-killer and extra armour
I was thinking of a Stormraven instead of the Redeemer, thoughts?

2 x Vindicator's

Scout Squad w/ Sgt. Telion and Missile Launcher



White represents my allies and red my main.

First off, hi, and welcome to the forums!

As for your list... I'm not sure what the allies really do for you. Kantor and the scouts... don't really add much, but combined cost like 500 points. Thats another 2 squads of sanguinary guard! You should really only take Dante if you take at least 3 squads of them.

I like the death company, but do you REALLY need 9 power weapons + a power fist? 2-3 power weapons and a fist should be more than enough, and gives you albative wounds to take on other guys.

The stormraven is better in this list IMO, because its an awesome badass flier.

So, in conclusion... I'd make these changes -

Drop:
Kantor + Scouts
Redeemer
6x power weapons

Add:
2x Sanguinary Guard squads
Stormraven
Death Company Furioso

Thanks! and thanks for your input.

My thoughts behind Kanto was to add +1 attack to the already huge # of attacks for the DC. being 60 attacks on the charge w/ the ability to re-roll hits and wounds. that's pretty powerful. I understand the PW's are a bit overkill, and i could definitely loose some.

the main reason i dont have more sanguinary guard is because i physically don't have more of the models. i might try out a proxy game w/ them. but the main reason i like them w/ dante is the ability to deep strike sans scatter. drop in behind vehicle to melta the backend. drop in on an objective. those sort of things. they seem less awesome when they are just a couple 5 man groups running around the board alone, especially w/ no invul saves.

I would probably give the death company power axes instead of regular PW, and DC are amazing now so i'd definitely use more of them, also try to equip the guard with axes to.

tflewis wrote:I would probably give the death company power axes instead of regular PW, and DC are amazing now so i'd definitely use more of them, also try to equip the guard with axes to.

I hate axes, sure you get that +1 strength but at Initiative 1. I dont want to go last. to me, the Initiative matters more than the +1 strength. i could be wrong though. also, 9 times out of 10 im playing guard anyway, and the extra str isn't going to help.

given, the extra ap3 isn't going to help that much either. I just enjoy knowing that every wound is a kill, no save.

thanks though.

I would suggest more troops. In many games, it's not just about annihilating your enemy, but about capturing and holding objectives. You could keep the scouts, but take out Kantor. Take out at least 1 vehicle (I would suggest a Vindicator), and add a tac squad. They may not be flashy, but standard infantry with a 3+ save are worth it. While you may like big expensive units, a few lucky lascannon shots will turn an expensive tank into a smoldering wreck. I would take the Stormraven because aerial units are much better in 6th. Another possible addition would be an assault squad because they are troops for Blood Angels.

Overall: Drop a Kantor and a vehicle or two, add more troops.

Personally I would go for Astorath and DC pure with Jump packs and DOA.

That's some seriously scary stuff right there

KrimsunBaron wrote:Personally I would go for Astorath and DC pure with Jump packs and DOA.

That's some seriously scary stuff right there

One of my favorite list concepts - Astorath, 30 death company in stormravens, rest of the points in scouts / allied guard to hold objectives.

If your just playing guard then yeah you dont need axes at all

You can not travel in other armies transports. So I guess Kantor is foot slogging.

Telion squad is a good idea. I would bring a stormtalon as well, you could use it well.

Also you have issues with units in reserve.
Maybe have a vanilla HQ on jump pack or bikes to run with BA.
Shrike or Khan could suit you in really strange ways.
But actually your allies are doing much for you.

Heavy deathstar, low scoring probably doesn't work in 6th.

Kantor's +1 attack bubble only affects units from codex space marines, no others.

Go read the FAQ's on GW's site.

BronzeJon wrote:Kantor's +1 attack bubble only affects units from codex space marines, no others.

Go read the FAQ's on GW's site.

OH you're right. man, i should have looked at those. oh well. Thanks all!