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I'd like to build a list that uses stalkers as my primary anti-tank but while the gun looks powerful, I'm not sure the 24" range is enough to rely on.

Any thoughts or advice for how to use stalkers?

I think their primary use is as a force multiplier by giving everything TL. I run 2 with heat rays. Tank busting, if you get them in position, is a bonus.

I wouldnt completely rely on them for anti tank. Make sure you got plenty of gauss guns nearby to take advantage of the twin linking

Use the TL-heavy gauss cannons. Its the best weapon for twin-linking your targets and it has the range to do it from accross the table. Not to mention its also a lascannon.

If you have to use stalkers as your ani tank you're doing necrons wrong. Gauss will wreck vehicles, so the patriarch stalker should be ed mostly for its twin linking ability.

Take the Gauss Cannon for sure. It's not really meant for tank hunting, and you don't really need anti-tank that bad anyways. I mean, tapping any vehicle from 36" away and letting all your OTHER Gauss weapons get TLing means most things are gonna take 3-4 glances anyways. And, for it's price, you don't want it getting in the way of heavy fire anyways. . .Heat Ray is fun, but doesn't deliver full capacity for usefulness.

You want it to shoot at something other units are also going to shoot at. It isn't really for killing stuff on it's own, so longest range wins as to choices.

Still pretty good at being killy though.

Interesting replies, I figured the relay was more of a novelty, when it works its a nice bonus for the rest of your army but not the main focus of the unit.

So shift to heavy gauze cannon for the extra range and tag high priority targets followed up by mass gauss spamming to bring them down?

I have to disagree with most people here.
I always use the HeatRay. two shots at 24" I've rarely missed both, and I've never found myself out of range. Heck, deployment you are only 24 inches away.
The twinlinking ability is incredible. It is a good day when the Monolith gets a TL particle whip, or a mob of warriors get in rapidfifre range with TL
and the dual-purpose of the heat ray, HF or 2 shot MM, is great! It helps take down tanks turn 1 and 2. Then it rushes forward, and burninates big groups with the Flamer.
It has 13 front armor, so nothing short of a meltabomb, MC, or luck can hurt it in CC. So I also use it to block any potential assaults at my warriors.

If you are going to run two and you want them to be your anti tank then take one with the gauss cannon and one with the heat ray. Tag with the Gauss then you have a twin linked Heat Ray.

But in truth mass gauss works very well. GLANCING TO DEATH FINALLY MEANS GLANCING TO DEATH. Not just, "Oh the guys inside are now shaken 4 times."


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And to add to that, Harbinger of the Storm..... nuff said

Dragoon65 wrote:If you are going to run two and you want them to be your anti tank then take one with the gauss cannon and one with the heat ray. Tag with the Gauss then you have a twin linked Heat Ray.

But in truth mass gauss works very well. GLANCING TO DEATH FINALLY MEANS GLANCING TO DEATH. Not just, "Oh the guys inside are now shaken 4 times."

Why waste two stalkers only hitting one thing. If you are bringing two stalkers, shoot two different targets, so you can have multiple units to have TL shooting against.

and why do you need to do the tag team for the TL heatray? 2 shots (unless you are really unlucky) will almost always get at least one hit. and that is all you need to get a TL power.

All you need to kill any vehicle (LR included) is 1 stalker with heat ray, and a group of warriors. Fire with the heat ray, maybe destroy it. If not, fire with the TL warriors and glance it to death.

The guass cannon is a waste of power. I know. I played against another necron player and our Triarch stalkers went head to head against eachother. I had the heat ray, he had the HGC. who won? I did, even though I went second. Then after that I walked around and burned his scarabs to death! the multiple benefits of the heat ray are to awesome to ignore! and the heat ray is just as good as the HGC in Antitank

Moronic Nonsense wrote:

Dragoon65 wrote:If you are going to run two and you want them to be your anti tank then take one with the gauss cannon and one with the heat ray. Tag with the Gauss then you have a twin linked Heat Ray.

But in truth mass gauss works very well. GLANCING TO DEATH FINALLY MEANS GLANCING TO DEATH. Not just, "Oh the guys inside are now shaken 4 times."

Why waste two stalkers only hitting one thing. If you are bringing two stalkers, shoot two different targets, so you can have multiple units to have TL shooting against.

and why do you need to do the tag team for the TL heatray? 2 shots (unless you are really unlucky) will almost always get at least one hit. and that is all you need to get a TL power.

All you need to kill any vehicle (LR included) is 1 stalker with heat ray, and a group of warriors. Fire with the heat ray, maybe destroy it. If not, fire with the TL warriors and glance it to death.

The guass cannon is a waste of power. I know. I played against another necron player and our Triarch stalkers went head to head against eachother. I had the heat ray, he had the HGC. who won? I did, even though I went second. Then after that I walked around and burned his scarabs to death! the multiple benefits of the heat ray are to awesome to ignore! and the heat ray is just as good as the HGC in Antitank

Triarch Stalkers are also walkers, so they get overwatch/snap shot with the Heat Ray in flamer mode. So anything charging your walker to bog it down in combat is likely gonna pay a little bit for it.

I've played two games with my Stalker so far. I have been running the TL Heavy Gauss. I only run one so I like it to stay back behind my advancing line of warriors to get that Target relay into targets I wanted destroyed. It's done ok so far but am still up in the air about the need for Stalker. That 165 points could go into some thing else for sure.

General_Chaos wrote:I've played two games with my Stalker so far. I have been running the TL Heavy Gauss. I only run one so I like it to stay back behind my advancing line of warriors to get that Target relay into targets I wanted destroyed. It's done ok so far but am still up in the air about the need for Stalker. That 165 points could go into some thing else for sure.

You are not getting the pts out of this thing becuase you are not using it as it should be used.

This thing is multipurpose!
it can take out tanks with it's TL HGC, better yet, it can take out tanks AND hordes with the Heat Ray

It also boosts your other people with the TL ability, so shooting at a horde, or exceptionaly tough vehicle makes sense.

And it is A13 walker, just ram it down your opponents throat. Use it as a deterent to charging your warriors, get it in the way.
I saved my warrior squads multiple times from an assault with getting that stalker in the way.

If you only use it for one purpose (antitank), you will be sorely dissapointed, but this unit and many others in this codex were designed to work together.

Moronic Nonsense wrote:

General_Chaos wrote:I've played two games with my Stalker so far. I have been running the TL Heavy Gauss. I only run one so I like it to stay back behind my advancing line of warriors to get that Target relay into targets I wanted destroyed. It's done ok so far but am still up in the air about the need for Stalker. That 165 points could go into some thing else for sure.

You are not getting the pts out of this thing becuase you are not using it as it should be used.

This thing is multipurpose!
it can take out tanks with it's TL HGC, better yet, it can take out tanks AND hordes with the Heat Ray

It also boosts your other people with the TL ability, so shooting at a horde, or exceptionaly tough vehicle makes sense.

And it is A13 walker, just ram it down your opponents throat. Use it as a deterent to charging your warriors, get it in the way.
I saved my warrior squads multiple times from an assault with getting that stalker in the way.

If you only use it for one purpose (antitank), you will be sorely dissapointed, but this unit and many others in this codex were designed to work together.

I used to run the Stalker with TL H Gauss, but I am more sold on the Heat Ray in 6th. Remember, the Heat Ray is AP 1 (+2 on damage chart) Melta so it does terrible things to vehicles OR you have a Heavy Flamer (that can snap shot). That makes this guy nice and versatile against a few types of lists. It gives you vehicle hitting power against a mechanized list AND the Flamer to help take care of pesky horde armies and troops, which are makng a resurgence.

With Hull Points and AV 13, this thing is pretty tough. I wouldn't be shy about getting it up into the mix a bit more and letting that gun wreck havoc.

Yep I decided to run two just because I like the model, but it has ended up working pretty well regardless.

I'm suprised there isn't more discussion of the Particle shredder. The large blast means multiple units can be TL and now that blasts only need to touch vehicles to hit them at full strength, str 7 is still capable of penning most vehicles