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Flashy Flashgitz

I was about to post this in the Stormraven blind spot thread, but it got locked. I feel that my question somewhat pretains to that thread because this was said during the discussion(not naming names):

find a rule allowing you to use non-citadel models in your game

Hint: once you change the model, it is no longer a Citadel miniature, but a once-citadel-now-not offsrping of one.

Here's my question. I plan on converting my Deffkoptas into Rokkit Buggies by cutting parts off of the koptas and adding wheels, either Lego wheels or bottlecaps if I can't find 18 sets of wheels cheap online. Since I've changed the model, does that mean I can't use them in games? I suspect that I'd have to go over it with my opponent but if they state the quote above does that make my conversions useless?

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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine

Sioux Falls, SD

If you don't do it to gain an unfair advantage most people will go with the rule of cool on it, but before going to a tournament check with the TO to be sure it's ok. Some opponents will probably have issues but the better it looks and the closer in size it is to the real thing the less problems people will have with it.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut

As above.

I said that to counter the assumption that you can play anything as anything, when the rules dont start that way.

If your model looks cool, 99.99% of the time you wont have any issues with it, including in tournaments. If it gives you an advantage over the normal model, then a standard compromise is to play it as if it were the normal model.
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Flashy Flashgitz

To be honest I've never even seen a Warbuggy in real life or in pictures side-by-side. Are they pretty comparable length and width wise?

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Decrepit Dakkanaut

They shouldbe about right, buggies are quite small so dont go too big on the conversion
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Cosmic Joe


Rule of cool to rule all rules

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Fixture of Dakka

Rule of cool.

Buggies should be small. The stock is no larger than a 60mm base.

As long as you are not making them too absurd to block LOS or gain a shooting advantage, you should be good. But you always risk you rmodels being rejected.

I actually have 3 stock buggies and 3 stock wartrakks which I use and more than once TOs have asked to borrow my model to use for reference when people had oversized buggies (guy used predators as buggies)

AoBR Deffkopta to buggie conversions seem to usually have minimal impact to gameplay.

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Horrific Horror

A fair number of people have done this conversion and it looks great, if you search online you should be able to find the conversion.

GW frequently features conversion on their website, if that isn't an indication that what you are doing is ok then I don't know what is. Also, ork wheels can be found cheap on ebay.

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Longtime Dakkanaut

The warbuggy models had their 20th birthday a year ago. I use grot tanks as warbuggies, any ork player will love it. The deffkoptas are bigger than the current warbuggies anyhow so only super douchey players will say anything other than great idea.
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Flashy Flashgitz

I was thinking about just using bit'd Ork wheels but I found a video on youtube that used Lego wheels and it seemed like the easiest way to go. And I love Legos lol.

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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot

I would have a problem playing against an Ork player that DIDN'T have conversions.
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Cutting stuff up and bunging it back together in new and interesting ways.

Over there...

tgf wrote:The warbuggy models had their 20th birthday a year ago.

The current Warbuggy was released in 2nd edition, some time after Codex: Orks, which was released in 1994.

So not quite 20 years yet.

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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine

Boulder, CO

Here is one of my Kopta to Buggy conversions.
I have never had anyone, including TOs tell me I couldn't use them.

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