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Had an issue with some intertretation of this rule last game.

If some poor slob with a "Plasma gun" (Rapid fire, Gets hot!) Rolls snake eyes. He (the model) suffers two wounds. So if he dies on the first, what happens? Does the other just go away? That is what I assumed as no one else is holding the gun. But my apponent argued that the wounds would shift to the squad, next closest rule then applying. As if it overheated and took out the guy next to him as well.

Since the gets hot wounds in 6th are now specifically attributed to the model with the gun, I cant immagine the point is to allow it to kill the rest of the squad... but was I doing it wrong?

Either way, I should be rolling for each plasma gunner alone now huh. cause rolling 6 dice and getting 2 1s could either mean 2 models take wounds or 1 unlucky model takes 2.

The rules state that the model holding the gun is specifically allocated the wound, right? so if you can't allocate it to him, you can't allocate it around.

You should be rolling for them individually, yes. Same as 5th ed.

Get a few different coloured dice pairs, that way you can still roll them together if you are worried about slowing down the game.

I wasnt trying to allocate wounds around. I was asking what happens to the second wound if the model dies from the first.

also, I was under the impression that in 5th they were applied to the unit, and any poor sod could suffer.

CountCyrus wrote:I wasnt trying to allocate wounds around. I was asking what happens to the second wound if the model dies from the first.

It's lost.

also, I was under the impression that in 5th they were applied to the unit, and any poor sod could suffer.

You were incorrect under 5th.

CountCyrus wrote:I wasnt trying to allocate wounds around. I was asking what happens to the second wound if the model dies from the first.

by suggesting that i could go to another model in the unit, you were trying to allocate that wound around, since the rules state that the wound is allocated to the model with the weapon.

To give an example:

everyone remembers the wound allocation shenanigans in 5th edition (if not, it was essentially equipment matter when allocating wounds, rather than just the armor of this edition). Say we had a unit of five paladins taking 25 saves. due to the wound allocation, each would take five saves. If four models save all but one wound, and the fifth fails all five of his saves, what happens to the other three wounds?

Sweet. Thanks for the Clarification.

SCvodimier wrote:
by suggesting that i could go to another model in the unit, you were trying to allocate that wound around, since the rules state that the wound is allocated to the model with the weapon.

I think what he was trying to say is that he doesn't think the second wound should count at all because the plasma gunner died from the first one.

I wouldn't accuse him of wound allocation shenanigans.

My apologies, I meant by suggesting that the second wound could go to another guy in the squad, since the first is dead, is still re-allocating the wound, since the rules tell us to allocate it to the model with the gun.

I did not mean to accuse him of any shenanigans.

Finally they have written it just fine and I can happily agree with you on that topic: Only the specific model is removed.

-Nazdreg- wrote:Finally they have written it just fine and I can happily agree with you on that topic: Only the specific model is removed.

It only took them 5 or 6 editions to get it right!

-Nazdreg- wrote:Finally they have written it just fine and I can happily agree with you on that topic: Only the specific model is removed.

There was no problem with the last edition, it was pretty clearly written.

Testify wrote:

-Nazdreg- wrote:Finally they have written it just fine and I can happily agree with you on that topic: Only the specific model is removed.

There was no problem with the last edition, it was pretty clearly written.

I think it was pretty clear in 3rd and 4th too.

Actually last edition it was not clear... (which is the reason why there was a quite long thread about it with a very controverse debate)

Both ways to play it, were not 100% covered by the rules. (There was no model based saving throw but the model had to take the wound (which was debated as well whether this means that also the unsaved wound had to be put on the model))

But now as all saves are model based it is very easy and clear.