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Just wanted some comments and critiques

HQ SM Captain. 175
SM Bike
Artificer Armor
Powerfist

ET Terminator Squad. 460
+5 Terminators
2x Cyclone missle launchers

TP SM Bike Squad. 160x4=640
+1 Bike
Attack bike
Meltabombs
TP Scout Squad. 95
Sniper rifles
Camo cloaks
Meltbombs

FA Attack Bike Squad. 130x2=260
1x Multimelta
FA Scout Bike Squad. 100
3x Astartes grenade launchers

HS Predator. 85x2=170
Heavy bolter side sponsons

FT Aegis Defence Line. 100
Quadgun

I'd put the captain with a bike squad, have the scout squad man the quadgun with a combat squad of terminators (2 cyclones and sarge) in front of them. There is plenty of anti-infantry, tons of powerfists and some (multi)meltabombs, autocannons and cyclones for anti-tank. I appriciate your time and critiques.

I would go for a lightening claw to make use of the captain's initiative. Maybe have a meltabomb.

Biker squads would be better with special weapons. Maybe even a couple of powerweapons nowadays.

Scout bikers are not as awesome as they were. I am not sure on your set up. Now they need to rely on shooting. so they look all right.

attack bikes are cool.

SNiper scouts could do with Telion. Who may be a good choice for the ADL.

Now the termies and preds, may not be the best fire support. Points per killiness.

Captain shouldn't have a power fist. Relic blade ftw; S6 smash in your face goodness and wounding mostly on a 2+. Add a storm shield too.

Bikes need some meltaguns and other bits. Plain bikes will only be mediocre against infantry at beast.

The Dakka Predators are pretty pants; they don't really kill a lot. Will only hit with one autocannon shot and four heavy bolter shots, then wound T4 models four times, which will get armour/cover saves. Of course that's also average

The main reason Relic Blades got hurt is because they are now AP3 instead of AP2.

This seems like a pretty decent/good bike list.

Yes, I know about relic blade being AP3, but that's not a good reason not to take one. It is still S6 and you still strike in initiative order. Just avoid anything with a 2+ armour save. Not really that difficult..

You want your attack bikes to have multi-melta and you want to take max special weapons on each bike squad I'd drop the scouts to do that. I'd say a have 4 units of plasma and one of melta.

mercer wrote:Yes, I know about relic blade being AP3, but that's not a good reason not to take one. It is still S6 and you still strike in initiative order. Just avoid anything with a 2+ armour save. Not really that difficult..

Depends on what you want him to beable to deal with.

Lysander, Calgar, and Kantor all have Power Fists, and are some of the most powerful characters in the codex. Sure, it's in a good part due to their special rules, but this Captain is on a bike, so it's not like he has to worry about being ID'd before he gets a chance to attack.

It's not like he's loaded up on Plasma/Melta weapons to easily handle 2+ saves.