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If a Command Barge is destroyed on the charge by Overwatch fire, can the surviving Necron lord inside declare an assault of his own in the same turn? I assume the argument is that 'it's not really the lord charging the first turn, it's the chariot!'

As long as he passes that pinning test, I can't see why not.

Because he was a part of a unit that already declared a charge this turn.

In no way is he part of the same unit.

If someone tried to claim 'my lord is not charging, only his chariot' he shouldn't be allowed to participate in the combat. He didn't charge after all.

Wouldn't it be the same thing as if you had a lord in a unit of Warriors, they charge and the Warriors are all killed by Overwatch fire. Now you declare a charge with the lord on his own? Fishy.

N.I.B. wrote:If someone tried to claim 'my lord is not charging, only his chariot' he shouldn't be allowed to participate in the combat. He didn't charge after all.

Wouldn't it be the same thing as if you had a lord in a unit of Warriors, they charge and the Warriors are all killed by Overwatch fire. Now you declare a charge with the lord on his own? Fishy.

Not the same thing at all.
He lord can participate with the chariot because the rules allow him to, but is indisputably not part of the chariots unit.
The lord with warriors absolutely is part of the warrior unit.

He can not, the lord is embarked on the vehicle. The vehicle is destroyed and he does an emergency disembark, therefore he can not assault.

Wrecked? no, as he needs to disembark and then can't assault.
Exploded? He does not disembark, so technically yes.

pretre wrote:Wrecked? no, as he needs to disembark and then can't assault.
Exploded? He does not disembark, so technically yes.

Actually even if it's wrecked the CCB is open-topped which means it has the assault vehicle rule. That rule says a unit can assault even after the transport has been destroyed.

Ooh, good call. Forgot about Open-topped.

So yeah, he can still charge in.

Even though your CCB was destroyed on the overwatch, you still havent rolled your charge distance yet. Though, before you get to roll, you have to make sure that your overlord isnt pinned by the vehicle rules.

Also, your opponent doesnt get to overwatch again if your Overlord passed the pinning test.

pretre wrote:Wrecked? no, as he needs to disembark and then can't assault.
Exploded? He does not disembark, so technically yes.

Keep reading the next paragraph.

Regardless of how the transport was destroyed, the models are considered "now disembarked"

The next paragraph after Explodes! is referring to shooting at the passengers and is non-conclusive.

Either way, open-topped.

Even though it's referring to shooting passengers, the wording is very distinct and is followed up by the summary in the back of the book.

But yes, open topped so it doesn't matter.