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Lets say some scurvy puppy player tries to use Jaws against my beloved Tyranids. He gets it off, and draws a 24" line that contacts multiple units. Lets say he hit a Tervigon first, then a Hive Guard, then a few gants.

Does each unit get a chance to "Deny the Witch"?
If one of them succeed, does the power not work at all, or does it only not work against that specific unit?

So if my Tervigon rolls a 5, which would be a success, obviously she is not affected. However, does the power still work against the Hive Guard and the gants?

And furthermore, if I Enfeeble a unit with a Powerfist, does this happen before it Doubles Strength? It says that if multiple modifiers are applied, you multiply/divide, THEN add/subtract. So a TH Terminator would go 4x2-1 =7. However, Ive heard that since Enfeeble is in a different phase from the x2 Modifier, The Terminator would already be Str. 3 before the assault phase comes around, and would therefore be Str. 6. Which applies here?

The Deny the witch is a good question, I am not sure. I might just say the first unit it would hit would get a deny the witch roll. But that brings up the Nova power (hits everything in a radius), how would that work?

The enfeeble would effect the unmodified str of the model. So the marine would be str 3 and if in CC would be str 6 with the PF bonus.

I havent had either come up, but the -1 before you double sounds amazing.

If the Psychic test was passed and the target was an enemy, it now gets a chance to Deny the Witch and nullify the power.

Only the target* of the power can attempt to deny the witch.

* Psychic hoods let someone with a hood, that is close to the target, Deny the witch in their stead.

Texanity wrote:The enfeeble would effect the unmodified str of the model. So the marine would be str 3 and if in CC would be str 6 with the PF bonus.

Not true, you Multiply firts then add or subtract, so the Pfist is (Str 4x2= (8)-1 =7)

DeathReaper wrote:If the Psychic test was passed and the target was an enemy, it now gets a chance to Deny the Witch and nullify the power.

Only the target* of the power can attempt to deny the witch.

* Psychic hoods let someone with a hood, that is close to the target, Deny the witch in their stead.

Texanity wrote:The enfeeble would effect the unmodified str of the model. So the marine would be str 3 and if in CC would be str 6 with the PF bonus.

Not true, you Multiply firts then add or subtract, so the Pfist is (Str 4x2= (8)-1 =7)

1. Jaws hits multiple units though.

2. The argument Ive heard is that the multiplier order rule comes into effect when they would be at the same time. For example, a powerfist and furious charge both are in the assault phase. However, Enfeeble is not in the assault phase, so the unit would be Str. 3 (if 4 base) well before the x2 modifier comes into effect.

jifel wrote:

1. Jaws hits multiple units though.

2. The argument Ive heard is that the multiplier order rule comes into effect when they would be at the same time. For example, a powerfist and furious charge both are in the assault phase. However, Enfeeble is not in the assault phase, so the unit would be Str. 3 (if 4 base) well before the x2 modifier comes into effect.

1. No one is questioning that multiple unit are hit. However, only the target of a specific power may attempt a Deny the Witch! Unless there are pieces of wargear/abilities which say otherwise.

2. I'd have to agree here; the doubling comes into effect when a model makes attacks with a weapon and Enfeeble is cast in the Movement phase so I'd say S4 - S3 then x2 in the assault phase.

Iranna.

1. The SW FAQ has had a Q&A which handled this question for multiple years now. See page 4 of the FAQ.
2. The rules for Multiple Modifiers on page 2 don't care when those modifications came into effect. If a -1 and a x2 are both on that model when his strength score needs to be referenced, they resolve in the specified order.

So if I have a Black Templars army with the vow that gives me +1 str all game long, my powerfists are S10?

No, S9 - multiply then resolve additions and subtractions.

nosferatu1001 wrote:No, S9 - multiply then resolve additions and subtractions.

S10 against anyone who thinks that enfeeble would have made them S6....

nosferatu1001 wrote:No, S9 - multiply then resolve additions and subtractions.

Scott-S6 wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:No, S9 - multiply then resolve additions and subtractions.

S10 against anyone who thinks that enfeeble would have made them S6....

Yes, I know, nos. I was just pointing out a perhaps unforseen ramification of the "ENFEEBLE IS STR 6" crowd.

Each unit hit gets to Deny the Witch. If they do they do not suffer the effect of the power. None of them can stop the power once it goes off (except if there is a runic weapon, but that is diffrent), they can only not be effected by it.

Only the targeted unit gets to Deny the Witch, so the first unit affected by JotWW would get the Deny the Witch.

As above. The SW FAQ has told us for a couple of years now which unit is the Target of JotWW.