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2012/07/30 11:45:25
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Hive Tyrant with Wings, 2 sets of Twin-Linked Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, and Biomancy: 280 points.
Elites:
2 Zoanthropes in Mycetic Spore: 160 points.
3 Zoanthropes with Telepathy: 180 points.
Troops:
20 Hormagaunts with Toxin Sacs: 160 points.
20 Hormagaunts with Toxin Sacs: 160 points.
15 Genestealers, and 1 Broodlord with Telepathy: 270 points.
Fast Attack:
20 Gargoyles: 120 points.
Heavy Support:
Mawloc: 170 points.
Constructive criticism welcome.
I should point out I have already glued the Sacs on the Hormagaunts.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hello? Need advice.
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2012/08/10 14:20:28
Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
 buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/07/30 15:50:48
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Dakka Veteran
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Squigsquasher wrote:I should point out I have already glued the Sacs on the Hormagaunts, and I have also glued the Lash Whip and Bonesword on the Hive Tyrant.
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Looks pretty good to me. Not much I would suggest changing other than you are light on troops.
If those 2 units of Hormagaunts get flammed/barraged or whatever you aren't going to fair well capturing objectives.
I'd seriously consider dropping the Mawloc and grabbing a a troop choice tervigon. that also means you need to find another 40 points for ten Termagaunts in order to take the Terv as a troop choice.
To help you do that, lose the Vennon Cannons off the spores. BS2 means your going to miss most of the time anyway. The Spores have tenticles which is good enough.
Just my advice.
Also, Tervigon with crushing claws and rolling warp Speed turns him into a MECH killing machine and can also look after himself in CC.
One additional piece of advice i've come to learn from playing Zoanthropes.
They need a meat shield, some unit around them to prevent them getting into cc. The worst is a Zoanthrope unit stuck in cc as they will likely stay tied up for most of the game if they don't die.
So protect these bad boys and keep laying down your lance and blast.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/07/30 15:59:05
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2012/08/05 14:06:13
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Thanks.
I was trying to avoid Tervigons for this list, as it is a high mobility army.
I do agree it needs more troops. Maybe some Genestealers?
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/05 15:57:33
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Painting Within the Lines
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Genestealers are good, but they're there before even the wings are, perhaps a ton more gargoyles?
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2012/08/05 16:17:24
Subject: Re:1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It looks like a fun list to play. I dont think you'll win alot of games with it though. You need good, soild troop choices to win games by claiming objectives and Nids best choice in that area is a tervigon.
That being said, if i was running a fast flyer list just for fun, i would try to fit in 2 flyrants and drop the mawlock. Swooping adds alot of sustainability to a MC where the mawlock and be shot down after he appears if your opponent has good heavy weapons.
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2012/08/05 19:52:07
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tyrant could do with a cannon or devours with the new flyer rules it cant assault unless gliding, in which case it will get shot to pieces. no one wants a hive tyrant in their face. do that, or drop it. sorry
Zoans are good, not quite as reliable as Hive guard, consider a group of each. 2x zoans podding in, 2x hive guard on the ground early turns
Drop the venom cannon on pod. its not that great and wont be on the field long enough to have enough of an impact.
Welldone with everything else,
Flyrant and gargoyle combo works great
Trygon prime and hormiguant combo works great. (not mawloc!)
Shouldnt think you would need shrikes. ap3 boneswords have little effectiveness anymore. and they seem a little lost in the list. Save the points, bolster what you have.
Hope this has been helpful, nice list but personal tweaks. 
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2012/08/05 20:21:36
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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I can't change the weapon loadout on the Tyrant, the arms are already glued on. And I am not mothballing him, he's a birthday present. Also I was thinking of giving him some psychic powers.
The VCs on the pods are just a case of I had 40 points with nothing to spend on. Haven't even made the pods yet. So that can change.
Boneswords still ignore all armour saves, and I need the synapse.
A Trygon would be good, but what's wrong with the Mawloc? Considering how effective Terminators are now he is pretty vital with his AP2 attack when he enters play.
Hive Guard are good, but are better in defensive lists. They can't take pods, and this is a high manuverability list.
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/05 23:08:32
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Unfortunately for mawloc unless you roll a hit on arrival there is a good chance of deviation of the target. This happed twice with mine. Mawloc shows up within three inches of termies(Black Templar) with dos assault cannons : shot to pieces. Next time mawloc deviates six inches from unit of meganobs, they charge he died. Cannot depend on its arrival for ap 2.
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2012/08/06 11:48:29
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Hmm. The problem is I have already assembled and started painting a Mawloc. I do hear what you say, I just hate mothballing models...
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/06 16:35:21
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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All valid points, ive heard different stories about the boneswords, Ive been playing them as ap3.
Also it seems likes youve already got your list build so there isnt much we can do.
With a mawloc and not a trygon prime you do need the shrikes for synapse, as you said.
All the best
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2012/08/06 17:29:25
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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I do have a Trygon Prime...
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/07 16:37:06
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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if you have the tyrants with wings you want them to be all guns, and want to keep them swooping. tear the lash whip and bone sword off and get X2 devours on them.
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2012/08/07 17:49:01
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Ok...
Just ripped his arms off, went better than expected...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/07 17:50:54
Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/07 18:30:17
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Now that they are off why not magnetize them. Cheap and easy to change over. You can make your Single box of Swarm/tyrant be any option with a dozen magnets or so. There is a tutorial on here somewhere.
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2012/08/07 20:03:38
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Scuttling Genestealer
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Bradford1111 wrote:All valid points, ive heard different stories about the boneswords, Ive been playing them as ap3.
The codex states them as armor ignoring not power weapons. pg 83 top left corner
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2012/08/07 21:07:16
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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skycapt44 wrote:Now that they are off why not magnetize them. Cheap and easy to change over. You can make your Single box of Swarm/tyrant be any option with a dozen magnets or so. There is a tutorial on here somewhere.
There's a thought. Worried I might foul it up though.
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/07 22:13:30
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Dakka Veteran
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I would lose the pod and cannon on one of your broods of Zoanthropes and bulk the squad to three and put them on the ground. I worry, with this build, that you may not have enough synapse on the table (or at least synapse that isn't jumping around and away from them) to control your gaunts and gargs; though I'm assuming the Shrikes will probably be getting screened by the gargoyles until they can leap forward and ruin someone's day.
Honestly, I don't use the venom cannons on the pods at all. I prefer the Twin-Linked Deathspitter (because the pods BS is 2 and it's still 3 shots at Str 5, AP5) or the Barbed Strangler (large blast so the BS doesn't hurt as much, plus pinning is always nice). If it was the heavy venom cannon I'd take the risk, but at Str 6 small blast, BS2 I can never get it to perform well.
The Mawloc is an awesome unit, but you shouldn't use it expecting it to kill a bunch of stuff. It certainly can, but I find that it works much better as a terror/disruption unit.
Need another HQ: WHY NOT PARASITE OF MORTREXBERG!?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/07 22:20:27
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 Iron Hospitalers 1850 pts (Black Templar Successor)
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2012/08/08 12:16:13
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
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Thanks.
I was gonna drop the Venom Cannons on the pods to give my Tyrant double Devourers. The idea about dropping one pod altogether might actually work quite well.
Parasite of Mortrex is cool, but at 160 points I could get another 20 Toxingaunts. I do feel I need more troops, not sure what to drop. Maybe I should leave the Mawloc for higher point games and take another 20 Toxingaunts, and give my Tyrant Adrenal Glands.
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/09 12:49:38
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What are you doing with the tyrants powers?
If you swap them for boimancy you have the chance for iron arm, which is a lot better than adrenal glands, albeit up to chance.
Also i wouldn't buff put troops, you might need them but at 1500 there will be plenty of blasts and template that tear through hordes. invest in things harder to kill.
If you do drop the mawloc, have you considered Ymgarl? they sort of follow the fast element.
Post an updated list?
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2012/08/09 15:23:55
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Biomancy for the Tyrant. Ymgarls could be good, need time to write an actual updated list.
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/09 18:15:16
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Dakka Veteran
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Well, if you don't want to use the Mawloc, you could always switch to a Harpy with Twin-Linked Heavy Venom cannon, they both cost 170pts.
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Tombworld El'Lahaun 2500pts
Hive Fleet Vestis 5000pts
Disciples of Caliban 2000pts
Crimson Fist 2000pts
World Eaters 1850pts
Angels Encarmine 1850pts
Iron Hospitalers 1850 pts (Black Templar Successor)
Sons of Medusa 1850pts
Tartarus IXth Renegade Legion 2500pts
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2012/08/10 14:20:46
Subject: 1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Huge Hierodule
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
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Updated original post.
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Squigsquasher, resident ban magnet, White Knight, and general fethwit.
buddha wrote:I've decided that these GW is dead/dying threads that pop up every-week must be followers and cultists of nurgle perpetuating the need for decay. I therefore declare that that such threads are heresy and subject to exterminatus. So says the Inquisition!
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2012/08/10 20:28:01
Subject: Re:1500 points Tyranids Things With Wings army, advice needed.
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Hungry Little Ripper
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Biomancy....is that 6th Ed?
The harpy with twin VC s is good, also take a spore bomb. There are cluster spines too if i remember right.
Trygons and mawlocs have not fared well against Blood Angels.
The spores are helpful for zoeys and the Doom. gets them right into shooting.
Use steelers for assault troops - toxin and scything, then 30 or more termagaunts to hold objectives. Spread them out then go to ground.
If you can, add toxin. Re-roll those wounds!
A venomthrope is very useful in giving cover as you move.
I regularly use a tyrant, 2 boneswords, brainleach and 3 guards with bsword/lash.
If you have more points, add biovores and hive guards. They seem to be the best shooters.
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