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I'm thinking of adding an ally detatchment of vanilla marines for my BA army around 500-550pts. The main reason for this is to add the flyer to the roster. Was thinking of adding a space marine captain on a bike with 5 space marine bikers as the HQ and troops, but then if i add the stormtalon flyer there's still some points left. Was thinking of a squad of scouts with sniper rifles that would bring the total to near 500-550 pts. My BA are Dante DOA oriented with assault marines, SG and DC on JPs + dread in drop pod so a fast recon detatchment would work quite nicelly i think. Any ideas will be appreciated.

1) Pure DOA is dead with the reserve rules. So either plan on having stuff you can hide or stuff that can sit and shoot (scouts/devs etc)

If the Space Puppies get the same flyer ( I am not sure to be honest) I would look to them as there troop choices are much better) Though Sgt. Telion on a Ageies defense line + quad cannon is hella sexy. Also Lysander is a tough as nails choice from the codex as well.

hazal wrote:1) Pure DOA is dead with the reserve rules. So either plan on having stuff you can hide or stuff that can sit and shoot (scouts/devs etc)

If the Space Puppies get the same flyer ( I am not sure to be honest) I would look to them as there troop choices are much better) Though Sgt. Telion on a Ageies defense line + quad cannon is hella sexy. Also Lysander is a tough as nails choice from the codex as well.

I have read the rules. The allies are there to take some units to the table on turn1. Also my assault squad with a priest are on the table at the start. So i have taken the reserves restriction into concideration. Also the stormtalon is codex SM only, so no BA, DA, SW, BT, GK army can field it without allies.

What is the main benefit you want out of the SM codex, is it just the flyer? Do you want increased ranged firepower from them?

My curiosity stems from A) haven't been able to get any sleep and my mind wont shut up B) there are few things a SM can do what a BA cant do better withing similar roles, though allies from outside of the MEQ field (tau/eldar/IG) can add some diversity.

post what your list is as this determines what your allies should be althought the captain on a bike with a bike unit as troops is good but if you use scouts then take the command squad on bikes to give the captain feel no pain.

post your list and this will give us a better idea of what would improve your army

clark10 wrote:post what your list is as this determines what your allies should be althought the captain on a bike with a bike unit as troops is good but if you use scouts then take the command squad on bikes to give the captain feel no pain.

post your list and this will give us a better idea of what would improve your army

Well here's what my main force will likely look like:

BA main force:

HQ: Dante

Elite: 2 Sanguinary priests, hand flamers, jump packs, melta bombs

Elite: Furioso Dreadnought, Blood Talons, Drop pod

Troops: Sanguinary Guard, Infernus pistol x4, power fist x1

Troops: 10man Assault Squad, 2 plasma pistols, Jump packs

Troops: 6man Death Company, 2 power weapons, 1 plasma pistol, Jump packs

Total: 1300pts.

Also am gonna run this list with some eldar allies from time to time with:

HQ: Avatar of Khaine or farseer with guide

Troops: 5 Pathfinders

Troops: 5 pathfinders

Heavy Support: Wraithlord, 2 flamers, bright lance, EML

Total: 550pts.

Am only interested in taking the vanilla marines because want to include the flyer from time to time basically. The way i will get the DOA to work is through allies who will be deployed onto the table. Also either the DC or assault squad+1 priest will be assigned to the table if there are not enough ally units to make up half of my units.