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If I only have a HQ and a TROOP choice as Allies and they are joined together (the HQ is a IC) I can drop them turn 1, right?

Also, do the new Screamers and Flamers have a 4++ as they did before instead of the "-" in the WD update or do they only have a 5++ from the Daemon USR? My update needs a FAQ...

As a side question, if the rumored Daemon release digitally happens this weekend and there is a rules clarification or update about anything... what do I do if I don't have a Ipad? Not trying to stir that pot again, I was just wondering if there would be a FAQ for all of us paper codex people... :-)

1. Yes the HQ is part of the unit.

2. RAW they actually have no save as the daemon special rule only adds fear to the CD. RAI I think they're suppose to have the 5++. I don't have the book with me, but if MoT adds +1 inv like in csm then they be 4++.

3. Don't even get me started on this. This is just more proof that GW has no idea about anything related to the tech world and they think that everyone is an apple sheep.

They have no Mark of Tzeentch.

They have a 5+* save for being a demon.


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and I agree to your #3, Sothas.

Sothas wrote:

2. RAW they actually have no save as the daemon special rule only adds fear to the CD.

The Daemon USR gives them a 5+ invulnerable too.

I own an iPad, but paying twice for the codex makes me sad. I'll wait for others to report in.

Other questions have been answered correctly.

Even if you dont have an ipad there's always a way to open files on other machines...even though its not entirely legal it just depends on the file extention....imma gonna shut up now.

Cyvash wrote:Even if you dont have an ipad there's always a way to open files on other machines...even though its not entirely legal it just depends on the file extention....imma gonna shut up now.

It's a proprietary file format that can't (currently) be opened by any program other than iBooks, as far as I'm aware.

Now, if only Apple released an iBooks program for desktop/notebook computers, not just iOS...

While I haven't done it myself (mostly because I refuse to give anything to Apple in any way), there are ways to read .epub files on something other than the iPad. However, it's quite complicated from my understanding. My best guess as to why these codex updates are only for iPad is because of how hard it is. GW has proven to be quite inquisitorial in their distribution of their products.

BladeWalker wrote:If I only have a HQ and a TROOP choice as Allies and they are joined together (the HQ is a IC) I can drop them turn 1, right?

Daemon rules tell you to count up the number of units and split them in half. You have 2 units. You cannot drop them together.

You would need to add a 3rd unit. This would allow you to take 2 in one wave and 1 in the second. Once in the same wave, you can then add the IC to the troop choice.

Green you are forgetting what important thing. If an IC joins a unit (and this is specifically written out in Daemonic Assault), they count as a single unit for the purpose of daemonic assault.

Edit to add: Note that this is done before you count up how many units you have to divide up.

If you have an IC with a unit......say a herlad of Khorne with some bloodletters as daemonic allies, and it is top of your turn 1 you split into two waves. Wave 1- Khorne guys all together......Wave 2.....nothing. Then you roll for waves and hope you get primary, or you get nothing and wait to get your unit out of reserves.

Norbu the Destroyer wrote:. Then you roll for waves and hope you get primary, or you get nothing and wait to get your unit out of reserves.

No you DONT wait for reserves. You have NOTHING on the board at the end of turn 1 so you loose!

Dooley wrote:

Norbu the Destroyer wrote:. Then you roll for waves and hope you get primary, or you get nothing and wait to get your unit out of reserves.

No you DONT wait for reserves. You have NOTHING on the board at the end of turn 1 so you loose!

They are only allies. The primary detachment is still on the board...

Green is Best! wrote:

BladeWalker wrote:If I only have a HQ and a TROOP choice as Allies and they are joined together (the HQ is a IC) I can drop them turn 1, right?

Daemon rules tell you to count up the number of units and split them in half. You have 2 units. You cannot drop them together.

You would need to add a 3rd unit. This would allow you to take 2 in one wave and 1 in the second. Once in the same wave, you can then add the IC to the troop choice.

As Happyjew said, Daemonic Assault states that IC+Unit = 1 unit for the purposes of the assault.

nosferatu1001 wrote:

Green is Best! wrote:

BladeWalker wrote:If I only have a HQ and a TROOP choice as Allies and they are joined together (the HQ is a IC) I can drop them turn 1, right?

Daemon rules tell you to count up the number of units and split them in half. You have 2 units. You cannot drop them together.

You would need to add a 3rd unit. This would allow you to take 2 in one wave and 1 in the second. Once in the same wave, you can then add the IC to the troop choice.

As Happyjew said, Daemonic Assault states that IC+Unit = 1 unit for the purposes of the assault.

Yep you're not forced to split them up, unless gw says you have to do that with the current rules you run any hq with troops if you put them together they're still one unit for divindeing the daemonic assault.

I have been lied to again!

Captain Antivas wrote:They are only allies. The primary detachment is still on the board...

Oops I missed that part -1 Internets for me!

subtract another 1 for incorrectly using "loose" when you clearly meant "lose"

/ runs away and calls grammar police...

BarBoBot wrote:subtract another 1 for incorrectly using "loose" when you clearly meant "lose"quote]

Balls!! But which one do I apply first?

I don't think it matters in this situation, as you are just subtracting, now if you were told to halve your internets on the other hand, then we could have some fun discussing that.