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Made in us
Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




Milford, CT

So here is my current 1850 point list:

HQ:
Rune Priest w/ Runic armor, Space Bike, Master of Runes, (giving him divination and biomancy powers) .205 points

Wolf Lords w/ Space Bike, Belt of Russ, Frost Sword, Wolf Claw, Saga of the Warrior Born .240 points

Troops:
10 Grey hunters w/ Flamer, Plasma gun, Mark of Wolfen, Wolf Standard . 175 Points

08 Grey hunters w/ Melta gun, Mark of Wolfen, Wolf Standard, Drop pod .185 Points

07 Grey hunters w/ Melta gun, Mark of Wolfen, Wolf Standard, Drop pod . 170 Points

Elites:
Wolf Gaurd w/ Terminator Armor, Power Axe, Storm Bolter
Wolf Gaurd w/ Terminator Armor, Power Axe, Storm Bolter
Wolf Gaurd w/ Terminator Armor, Power Axe, Storm Bolter
Wolf Gaurd w/ Terminator Armor, Power Sword, Storm Bolter, Cyclone Missile Launcher
Wolf Gaurd w/ Space Bike, Power Axe .225 points total

Fast Attack:
10 Swiftclaw Biker Pack w/ Power Sword .265 points

Heavy Support:
6 Long Fangs w/ 2 Lascannons, 3 Missile Launchers .170 points

5 Long Fangs w/ 4 Missile Launchers .115points

I have a turny coming up on the 10th and would like opinions on this list sense I haven't gotten to play it yet (Lack of warhammer games going on locally)
Any ideas are welcome.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/02 19:09:47


x13eyondx 
   
Made in it
Infiltrating Broodlord





Italy

SW on bike are for sure unusual. I couldn't imagine your adversary particularly surprised and intimidated by this list but I think you'll may made good use of some unit in your list.
However I see some little problem.

- 205 pts for a Rune Priest looks hugely too much. Does you'll really need to cast 2 powers per turn? I will drop Master of Runes.
- why a frost blade on the WL? I would understand a combo PF/WC in case of challenges (to be able to face-to-face both high I/low I characters) but the Frost blade really don't have any sense. I do even prefer Saga of the Bear and Runic Armor combo. Why not Thunderwolf mount for him? Radically better for just 10 pts more?
- More or less the same considerations for the Power Axes on termi WG. Why? for the little +1 in ST? I completly understand the AP2 but I'm worried about I1 in challenges. Lately I alwais give Power Swords on my WG and then a PF in the GH unit. Less attacks for the PF of course but a WG that could take care of most of enemy charcters or at least strike contemporaneously.
- 10 switclaws may certainly put out a huge amount of attacks but you're relying on Divination Powers for the real effectiveness on this unit. with AS3 you'll absolutely need the reroll to hit. Have you considered a Wolf Priest? Eventually even replacing the Wolf Lord that isn't adding much to the list a part a fire Magnet? Why not Plasmaguns on them? They will benefit from Preferred Enemy even in the shooting phase.
- a 5x ML Long Fangs unit is 140 pts.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/08/02 09:12:47


Every molecule will be useful

6000+ pts NIDS
() 2000 pts growing to 4000... 
   
Made in us
Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




Milford, CT

-as far as the rune Priest goes no I really don't need to cast 2 powers a turn I was just thinking that, I'm only gonna us one power almost every turn because of how they are set up (the primus in divination) so Dropping Master Of Runes is fine

-I could try dropping him for the Wolf priest like you said, to get the re-rolls to hit, which would also be great for this unit

-basically, drop the Power Axe and use a Power Sword, then give a PF to a guy in their squad? and accept the Challenge with who? also you said in the 2k list to add SS to the WG, is that still a good idea here?

x13eyondx 
   
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I would seriously consider vanilla marines as an ally if you want bikers.
Usually ADL with quadgun, for cover for the long fangs and to shoot down flyers.

Then maybe give the wolfguard a drop pod and combimeltas.
   
Made in us
Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




Milford, CT

Turny rules are no buying buildings and no allies other wise I was thinking about it/

x13eyondx 
   
Made in us
Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader





Massachusetts

Isn't this basically the same list that you posted here?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/467053.page

Get rid of the Wolf Lord. Make him a wolf priest instead.

Wolf Priest + Runic Armor, Bike, Saga of the Hunter (170 points)

Take the bike away from the Rune Priest. You don't want to be anywhere near CC with him. In fact, you can get two rune priests for what he costs. Make him

Rune Priest (plain) (100 points)
Rune Priest + Chooser of the Slain (110 points)

That gives you 65 points to play with.

2500 pts

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Made in us
Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




Milford, CT

yup, but where I live, not many games atm so I have no idea how well they will work and you cant take saga of the hunter on a space bike

x13eyondx 
   
Made in us
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Massachusetts

x13eyondx wrote:y you cant take saga of the hunter on a space bike


Good call. I forgot about that.


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x13eyondx wrote:yup, but where I live, not many games atm so I have no idea how well they will work


you could drive up to Massachusetts. Plenty of games in Northampton / Greenfield.

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2500 pts

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Made in us
Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




Milford, CT

yea I have my book in front of me checking everything as everyone gives tips

and yes I deff. want to but it's like a 1 hour and 30 min drive to 2 hour drive for me atm, next time I'm going up that way tho, i'll try to go play a few games up there

x13eyondx 
   
Made in it
Infiltrating Broodlord





Italy

I'm really curious about the Swiftclaws effectiveness under the command of a Wolf Priest biker. On paper sounds good but still I'm considering it as missing something.. Let us know how they performs.

Every molecule will be useful

6000+ pts NIDS
() 2000 pts growing to 4000... 
   
Made in us
Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




Milford, CT

honestly with the rune priest and Wolf Lord they would walk through squads like it was nothing, but I'll keep you up to date, I have a game lined up for saturday or later today so i will give you guys the news then

x13eyondx 
   
Made in us
Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate




Milford, CT

So results are in. The list I ran with was this:

HQ:
Rune Priest w/ Runic armor, Space Bike, Master of Runes, (giving him divination and biomancy powers) .205 points

Wolf Priest w/ Space Bike, Runic Armor .155 points

Troops:
10 Grey hunters w/ Flamer, Plasma gun, Mark of Wolfen, Wolf Standard . 175 Points

10 Grey hunters w/ Flamer, Plasma gun, Mark of Wolfen, Wolf Standard, Drop pod .210 Points

07 Grey hunters w/ Melta gun, Mark of Wolfen, Wolf Standard, Drop pod . 170 Points

05 Grey Hunters w/ Plasma Gun, Drop Pod .110 Points

Elites:
Wolf Gaurd w/ Terminator Armor, Power Axe, Storm Bolter
Wolf Gaurd w/ Terminator Armor, Power Axe, Storm Bolter
Wolf Gaurd w/ Terminator Armor, Power Axe, Storm Bolter
Wolf Gaurd w/ Terminator Armor, Power Sword, Storm Bolter, Cyclone Missile Launcher
Wolf Gaurd w/ Space Bike, Power Axe .225 points total

Fast Attack:
10 Swiftclaw Biker Pack w/ Power Sword, Attack bike, Multi-melta .265 points

Heavy Support:
6 Long Fangs w/ 2 Lascannons, 3 Missile Launchers .170 points

5 Long Fangs w/ 4 Missile Launchers .115points

My Rune Priest got re-rolls to Hit on Divination table, and Feebal on Biomancy. The Bike squad was eating Infantry and 2 Monstrous Creators before getting stuck in combat last turn, I did lose tho (I had 1 of 5 objectives) but the wolf priest won Challenges for me and the fearless kept me in battle, the re-rolls to wounds where also very nice

x13eyondx 
   
 
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