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I am making my new army but I'm having trouble deciding what to do with my last 245 points.

This is the list so far:

Castellan Crowe

Vindicare Assassin

10x Purifiers with 4x Psycannon,Psybolt Ammo(whole squad),5x Nemesis Force Halberd,Daemon Hammer
With Razorback with Psybolt Ammo

10x Purifiers with 4x Psycannon,Psybolt Ammo(whole squad),5x Nemesis Falchions,Daemon Hammer
With Razorback with Psybolt Ammo

10x Grey Knights with 2x Psycannon,Psybolt Ammo (entire squad)
With Razorback with Psybholt Ammo

Dreadnaught with TL Autocannon(RA),TL Autocannon(LA),Psybolt Ammo,Searchlight

Dreadnaught with TL Autocannon(RA),TL Autocannon(LA),Psybolt Ammo,Searchlight


Any tips on what to take for 245?
Some of my thoughts:

Another Dreadnaught (minus the search light) same as above as well as a 5 man Strike squad with a DemonHammer (why I didn't take searchlight above) and 2 psilencers.
or
A Dreadknight with a Psilencer and Psycannon (use 40 extra points elsewhere for upgrades, maybe an inquisitor for the psychic power).
or
A 5 man Terminator Squad with a Psilencer and a Psycannon.

Razorbacks are a waste of points in a Purifer list army. You will be wanting to shoot 2 Psycannons out of Rhino hatches, not a Heavy Bolter from a Razor back. Also as a full 10 man squad... what are you going to do with the other 5? Walking them up the table is suicide.

If you choose to have a Dreadknight in your list, the psilencer is pretty much regarded as the worst possible weapon in the GK codex, and even the Heavy Psycannon is pretty terrible, blast template that has to rend to really kill anything. Just take the Heavy Incinerator and the Personal Teleporter for 235 points. If you have the extra points, you "could" give him a Greatsword.


My suggestion on changes, keeping with as close to what you have as possible...

150 Crowe
60 Xenos Inquisitor (Psychoke Grenades, Plasma Syphon)

145 Vindicate Assassin
225 x5 Grey Knight Terminators (x2 Daemon Hammers, x1 Psycannon, x2 Halberds)

215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino

136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)
136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)
136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)

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Roguejm11 wrote:Razorbacks are a waste of points in a Purifer list army. You will be wanting to shoot 2 Psycannons out of Rhino hatches, not a Heavy Bolter from a Razor back. Also as a full 10 man squad... what are you going to do with the other 5? Walking them up the table is suicide.

If you choose to have a Dreadknight in your list, the psilencer is pretty much regarded as the worst possible weapon in the GK codex, and even the Heavy Psycannon is pretty terrible, blast template that has to rend to really kill anything. Just take the Heavy Incinerator and the Personal Teleporter for 235 points. If you have the extra points, you "could" give him a Greatsword.


My suggestion on changes, keeping with as close to what you have as possible...

150 Crowe
60 Xenos Inquisitor (Psychoke Grenades, Plasma Syphon)

145 Vindicate Assassin
225 x5 Grey Knight Terminators (x2 Daemon Hammers, x1 Psycannon, x2 Halberds)

215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino

136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)
136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)
136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)

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Wouldn't it be better for him to just have 5 Purifiers Squads and no Terminators? Because having those terminators feel kind of out of place. Besides that you covered everything he needs to change.

Crowe - 150

5 Purifiers - 2 Psycannon, Daemonhammer, Razorback w/ Psycannon - 225
5 Purifiers - 2 Psycannon, Daemonhammer, Razorback w/ Psycannon - 225
5 Purifiers - 2 Psycannon, Daemonhammer, Razorback w/ Psycannon - 225
5 Purifiers - 2 Psycannon, Daemonhammer, Razorback w/ Psycannon - 225
5 Purifiers - 2 Psycannon, Daemonhammer, Razorback w/ Psycannon - 225
5 Purifiers - 2 Psycannon, Daemonhammer, Razorback w/ Psybolter - 195

Psyfleman Dread - 135
Psyfleman Dread - 135
Aegis Defence Line - Quadgun - 100

10 Pts to spend, should do fairly well against most lists. Close to 70 Str7 Rending shots. Lots and lots of twin-linking and decent vehicle saturation. With the Purifiers disembarked you have 14 good shooting threats the opponent must eliminate.

I was thinking driving up, getting out and shooting. Use others on foot to hold and take positions. But I see your point.

So taking a librarian is a waste of points then eh?

Crono0918 wrote:I was thinking driving up, getting out and shooting. Use others on foot to hold and take positions. But I see your point.

So taking a librarian is a waste of points then eh?

Driving up and getting out to shoot leaves them all available to get squashed rather quickly by return fire. Keeping them inside the rhino is just 1 more thing your oppenent has to destroy to get to you. Think of it this way.. a direct hit from a Vindicator, Str 10 large blast. If you guys are outside shooting? You are all dead... if you are inside of the Rhino? If it explodes you get out taking a normal 3 up save if your oppenent rolled 4's or higher... chances are you have all of them left, maybe lost 1 person.

And yes in this type of list taking a librarian is a waste of points


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Stormtrooper520 wrote:

Roguejm11 wrote:Razorbacks are a waste of points in a Purifer list army. You will be wanting to shoot 2 Psycannons out of Rhino hatches, not a Heavy Bolter from a Razor back. Also as a full 10 man squad... what are you going to do with the other 5? Walking them up the table is suicide.

If you choose to have a Dreadknight in your list, the psilencer is pretty much regarded as the worst possible weapon in the GK codex, and even the Heavy Psycannon is pretty terrible, blast template that has to rend to really kill anything. Just take the Heavy Incinerator and the Personal Teleporter for 235 points. If you have the extra points, you "could" give him a Greatsword.


My suggestion on changes, keeping with as close to what you have as possible...

150 Crowe
60 Xenos Inquisitor (Psychoke Grenades, Plasma Syphon)

145 Vindicate Assassin
225 x5 Grey Knight Terminators (x2 Daemon Hammers, x1 Psycannon, x2 Halberds)

215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino
215 6x Purifiers (Daemon Hammer, x2 Psycannons, x3 Halberds) - Rhino

136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)
136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)
136 Dreadnought ( x2 TL Autocannons, Pysbolt Ammo, Search Light)

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Wouldn't it be better for him to just have 5 Purifiers Squads and no Terminators? Because having those terminators feel kind of out of place. Besides that you covered everything he needs to change.

That is the point Storm, the terminators are there because they are different, and they can take on a different role than what the purifiers are doing, which is mainly shooting psycannons.

I also noticed you're not using psybolt ammunition on your units. Isn't that pivotal to make stormbolters and psycannons more useful?

On top of that in rhinos don't you have to move 6 inches for the psycannons to be able to fire?