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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine






Does lumbering behemoth apply to the pintlemounted stubber upgrade on a leman russ? My opponents argued it was - the destroyer turret gun (the 20 shot turret) was out of rage but the stubber was in range. The argument was that it was on the turret so it counted. In the end for a quiet life I relented but said it needed to be checked up. So I'm asking - does lumbering behemoth only apply to the specific turret weapon ie the main gun?
   
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Focused Fire Warrior





Florida

A pintle mounted weapon is a pintle mounted weapon. Just because it is on the turret, does not make it a turret weapon. That being said, if he moved at combat speed, he can fire one weapon. Lumbering behemoth would allow him to fire his turret weapon plus one other weapon at combat speed. The turret weapon is the weapon that is part of the turret, i.e. battle cannon, executioner plasma cannon, punisher cannon, etc. A stubber is an upgrade weapon, and is not standard to the tank. So, if your opponent only fired one weapon, he was okay. However, if he fired his hull or sponson mounted weapons plus the stubber, he was wrong.

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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine






I believe he fired the sponsons at bs1, the hull at bs 4 (pask) and then tried to 'lumbering behemoth' the pintle
   
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine





Twin Cities, MN

No, that is clearly twisting the rules. The "Lumbering Behemoth" rule states you may fire your TURRET weapon, not a PINTLE weapon. Clearly defined in the BRB and not the same.

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Made in gb
Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine






Thanks. Dudes were saying they are not defined in the BRB... even more irritating. Still I bet them 12-3
   
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest





Stevenage, UK

Phototoxin wrote:Dudes were saying they are not defined in the BRB... even more irritating.


If that's their argument, and they were right (and thank goodness they're not) they wouldn't be able to use a sizeable chunk of the units and weapons in any given Codex. Turns out, they're not defined in the BRB!

"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch  
   
 
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