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Commissar41.0 wrote:hey guys I just wanted to know how you actually pronounce some of the things in the 40K universe...list some that you dont understand.

Necrontyr....is the final n silent does it sound like necro-tyr?
Macragge....I thought it was ma-craig?
Aeronautica....i think its like its spelled
Tzeentch....zz-ench?
Grimladus the Reclusiarch....Grim ladus/lettuce?

This is how I've always pronounced them:

Neh-cron-TEER (as in the 'tier' of a tournament)

Mah-CRAG (with a slight roll on the 'r')

Err-oh-NAW-tee-cah (Exactly as the English 'Aeronautical')

Tzeentch - Make a 'Tsss' sound as if you're indicating something is hot, then 'een' (as in 'bean'), followed by 'ch' (as in 'cheese') - I believe it is a single syllable. (Keep in mind it's designed to be ungainly and unpleasant to say. In the 40k world just saying the name can give people nosebleeds.)

Grim-LA-dus (as in 'dust') the Re-CLU-see-ark

Others I've seen pronounced incorrectly are:

C'Tan - supposedly pronounced 'suh-TAN'

Ciaphus - KAI-ah-fus

Kaldor Draigo - 'CHEE-see BAS-turd'

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English Assassin wrote:As I've mentioned before, the one which vexes me is hearing people pronounce Vindicare "vindy-care". It's "Vin-di-car-ay" (literally "to bring retribution"), with a long "a", like "justicar" (an Anglicisation of "iusticare" - literally "to bring justice").

I'll sidestep the question of whether we should pronounce the "v" with a "w" sound, since GW's Latin seems based more on early-modern neo-Latin (that of Linnaeus and his contemporaries) than classical Latin, which did the former (as, in fact did the vulgar Latin of the Republic, and as became standard in Rome under the Empire).

I always felt 'church' Latin was more appropriate to the 40k Imperium. Honestly never really liked the 'w' usage, myself. "Weni, Wini, Wichi" sounds a bit silly really.

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dufus0001 wrote:is BAAL "bay-yul" or "ball"?

i havent been able to get a definite answer

Assuming the name is based on the prince of Hell here it's pronounced "BAYL" (or like 'bail' in a courtroom).

The Blizzard character from Diablo 2, Baal the Lord of Destruction is also pronounced the same way.

"Ball' predator sounds just as silly as when people say Imperial Guard "Chim-eras". Imperial Guard vehicles are often named after Greek or Roman Mythological beasts/characters (Chimera, Basilisk, Atlas, Gorgon, Manticore, Hydra, Medusa, Griffon, Collosus) I assume they would follow the same pronunciation.

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TheCaptain wrote:Here's one that everyone seems to have their own interpretation of: Elysian

I say it :uh-lie-sea-in

but I've heard
uh-leash-in
eh-leasy-in
and others.

Thoughts?

I always pronounce it the second way this guy says it: here.

But, again, that's probably just because the first time I heard it was in reference to the Greek name for one of the parts of the Afterlife - The Elysian Fields (or Elysium, go figure).

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Kaldor wrote:

dufus0001 wrote:

English Assassin wrote:
Neither. It's "Baa-l", a long "a" sound, the way an RP English accent would pronounce "bath".

you are contradicting yourself friend. a long or hard (giggidy) 'A' sound makes the sound "aye" whereas a short or soft 'A' sound makes an "aah" sound. bath has a short 'A' sound

No, the short sound of A is what you'd hear in cat or hat. Baal should be pronounced like the sound in bar, car or master.

I have to disagree with the "bar/car/master" translation.

http://cheetah.eb.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?baal0001.wav=baal - Mirriam Webster

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Baal - Free Online Dictionary

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baal - Dictionary.com, however, lists the first translation as Australian slang 'Bahl' (meaning 'no') with the historical/biblical/daemonic version 'BAY-uhl'.

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=baal - lists both, but BAY-uhl first.

http://betterdaysarecoming.com/bible/pronunciation.html#b - Lists the biblical pronunciation is BAY-uhl (However the Hebrew pronunciation is "Ba'-al" with a glottal stop in the middle (imagine you're from Saff Lahndan and you're saying 'water'))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giiUTNUL1-U - Obviously someone felt the need to REALLY rub it in. The comments are the best part of this.

In the poem The Destruction of Sennacherib (1815) by Lord Byron, he rhymes it with "wail"

"And the tents were all silent, the banners alone,
The lances unlifted, the trumpets unblown.
And the widows of Ashur are loud in their wail,
And the idols are broke in the temple of Baal;
And the might of the Gentile, unsmote by the sword,
Hath melted like snow in the glance of the Lord!"

Plus we all remember the infamous quote upon discovering Duriel in Diablo II: "LOOKING FOR BAAL?" *SWIPE-SWIPE SWIPE-SWIPE OM NOM NOM!*

I squished his maggots for a good 2 minutes before wandering over to rescue Tyrael

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