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Hello All!

I'm putting 2000 points of SM together for a different take on my previous lists, you know, shake things up a bit. I'll list what I have in mind so far, but I'm stuck on how to fill out the remaining points. This would be the basic core of my army, I just dont know which HQ or heavy/elites choices to round it out. There are so many SM special characters that can completely change the face of your army and dictate what kind of theme and play style you'd have. So without further ado, here's what I have, and a brief explanation of why I have what I do. My question, how would you round out this army and make it a "type" or "theme"?

10 tactical marines in Rhino -- PF, Flamer, MM/ML/HB (I've got the spare guys to swap out the free heavy weapon depending on the opponent)
10 tactical marines in Rhino -- PF, Flamer, MM/ML/HB (I've got the spare guys to swap out the free heavy weapon depending on the opponent)

** Scout squad: snipers, ML, + Telion

Stormtalon: TLLC
Stormtalon: TLLC

Aegis Defense Line + Quad Gun.

Total: 995 Pts

So...

I know that I'll be taking an obligatory 2X 10 man tactical squads in rhinos.
** For the scouts, I did the math, and I was debating (1X 5 man squad) vs (1X 10 man squad) vs (2X 5 man squads). 2X 5 man squads is only 20 more points, and it allows for an extra missile launcher, plus the ability to split my fire. So basically its combat-squadded with an extra missile. 1 squad would get telion, who could man the quad gun at BS6! ...But then I got to thinking, should I take the Icarus Lascannon? The range and strength of that thing are fantastic, and at Telion's BS6... could that offset the rate of fire?

So I have 20 marines in rhinos, 5-10 scout snipers with a Telion, 2 stormtalons and an Aegis defense line with a quad gun or Icarus-Las.

I was thinking of maybe doing Lysander + 10 tactical terminators with 2 CML, footslogging right up the middle. With Vindicators? Not a lot of long range AT
Maybe Kantor with some sternguard? Couple of predators? Or maybe Devastators to help man the ADL? Now I don't feel very mobile.
A couple of rifleman dreads could be very nice to pop transports early on...

Anybody care to share your thoughts? Which HQ/Elites/Heavy would you go for? What "kind" of army could I do, or what would you do?

Thanks All! Anything is appreciated!

Storm Talons are quite weak. I would want another flyer and some reserve play to try to use them well. There very good are shooting though, I would prefer missiles for them.

You seem to have some very good ideas, not sure you can fit them all together.

I think you would best of having a fast/slow army. So gunline but then with flyers and fast things. I am saying get rid of the rhinos to try to make the stormtalons really work for you.

Can I recommend IG allies(see this as two scoring aeroplanes, with pysker to boost your infantry, then a squad of guardsmen to sit behind the ADL)
70 IG Pysker
30 PCS
50 10 guardsmen
50 10 guardsmen
140 aeroplane
140 aeroplane

From this I think your stormtalons will work and you will have less need for the tactical squads, so go troop light and just take another squad of scouts and then load up on firepower to hide behind the ADL.

Hope any of that helps.