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in the wargear for a heavy weapons squad it says lasgun.... Can we fire that in addition to the main heavy weapon or is it one or the other?

i believe one of the models per team may fire the lasgun.

heckler wrote:i believe one of the models per team may fire the lasgun.

In the older rules I think this might have been the case, in the current rules they are just a 2 wound model, the same as any 2 wound model, the fact they are represented by 2 men on a single base makes no difference.

The only time they actually count as 2 models is when putting them in a Chimera.

Drunkspleen wrote:In the older rules I think this might have been the case, in the current rules they are just a 2 wound model, the same as any 2 wound model, the fact they are represented by 2 men on a single base makes no difference.

The only time they actually count as 2 models is when putting them in a Chimera.

Spot on. The previous codex treated them as two models. The current version lets you fire the heavy weapon or a single lasgun, as they're a single model and models can only fire a single weapon each without a special rule that says otherwise.

when Assualted they may Fire their Lasguns as someone would in Assualt , But the Troopers are Considered to be Operating the Weapon as a Team with a Firer and a Loader as the case with Autocannon and HVY Bolter teams , With Morters it would be a Loader, Rangefinder - Missile Launcher would be Support Loader and Operator , And With Lascannon it would be the Poor Bastard carrying the Battary Charge Pack and hte Other Firing the Lascannon ...... Over all the 2 Troopers would be to involved in Operating the current Weapons System that the Only Reason they would drop it to use Their Lasguns is if they where assualted or their Posistion was Comprimised in such case One Trooper would Carry the WEapon the Other the Ammo provideing Adiquite cover fire

Kasrkin, that incredibly hard to read post has nothing to do with actual rules.

Its the Realisticness of it , a Weapons Operator would be Supported by a Loader , In Result they could only fire when they wenr't manning their equipement

Except he was asking about the rules, not 'realisticness' (or realism).

It follows the Rules as well , i was explaing , Rule wisei t counts as 2 lasguns that can be fired in an alternative to the Primary Weapon , for in the IG codex the Model for a Heavy Weapons Team is 2 troopers

Yeah, that's not even close to the rules.

Kasrkin229 wrote:It follows the Rules as well , i was explaing , Rule wisei t counts as 2 lasguns that can be fired in an alternative to the Primary Weapon , for in the IG codex the Model for a Heavy Weapons Team is 2 troopers

No, ruleswise it counts as one lasgun that can be fired instead of the primary weapon, even when using the lasguns, it's still only a single multiwound model, and thus can only fire a single weapon.

The HWT model is represented by two troopers... but ruleswise it is a single model with two wounds. There is no permission for them to fire two weapons... and if there were, it would also allow them to fire a single lasgun and the heavy weapon, as they used to be able to do.