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I give my opinions here.

My favorite units coming out of 6th ed so far are stormtroopers and leman russ exterminators. I'm already working on painting up 2 10-man stormie squads right now, and after that I'll be getting a couple of russes, probably.

Sort of reminds me of the old 4th ed "sentinel bomb".

Why are you charging your sentinel straight into somewhere where I will easily kill him? What, you say that everybody within up to 6" of the walker takes TWELVE vehicle explosion results? Why, why did I fire my dark reapers at that sentinel!?

Anything that encourages you to do damage to yourself is silly.

... but until 7th edition comes out...



Actually, back in the day, we used to joke that it would be funny if you could give your sentinels a "self destruct" mechanism. When you turned it on, it turned an open-topped vehicle into a SUPER-OPEN-TOPPED vehicle, wherein your opponent got a +3 to their damage roll, rather than just +1.

Likewise, what you're talking about begs for a 10-point upgrade called "tank mines", that makes it so that you can choose to automatically fail your difficult terrain test...

Blacksails wrote:You are misreading or mis-remembering the Lumbering Behemoth rule.

Yes, but you actually missed the new rules for vehicle shaken and stunned results. Those results no longer prevent you from firing your weapons, they only reduce the shooting down to snap firing.

So, if you are stunned, that means you can fire everything, except it has to be snap fired, except you can still fire the main gun as normally (as per LB).

If you take the position that LB doesn't upgrade a snap shot to a full shot when the vehicle is stunned, then you'd need to take the position that LB doesn't upgrade a snap shot to a full shot when the vehicle moves.

Right, I'll admit this is a touch vague, so if my opponent made a stink about it, I'd probably let him have it.

In a world where 40k isn't a social game, I'd allow it.

But lumbering behemoth no longer lifts the restriction on firing other stuff. Now it's firing the splatcannon OR its other guns, rather than firing the splatcannon, and one of its other guns at full BS.

And it prevents them from moving at combat speed, in which non-ordnance tanks could still operate. And prevents them from being a proper infantry screen.

Russes just got worse.

 HungryTaz wrote:
I need to go study the rulebook to see how the change to "Heavy" affects the LRBT now after the latest FAQ was released.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/474969.page

They're terrible weapons. They did gain a bit from the new glance-to-death rules, but their firepower is still really, really low.

In frag mode, you basically have to pay 5 points for a blast lasgun. Against vehicles, a single S6 shot at BS3 really, really isn't likely to accomplish much. Waste of points, and a waste of a special weapon slot.

Unless you've got a LOT of special weapons slots open, and you can't make enough points for real guns, then perhaps use them as filler, but they're not a good upgrade in their own right.

Why are people still arguing over lumbering behemoth? That rule has been un-written.

MrMoustaffa wrote:Whereas a GL is a small blast lasgun, or a single Multi laser shot... A PCS with 4 of them MIGHT be worth it, until you remember said unit is 50pts. For that price, you could have bought a lascannon, and actually killed something.

Or, for that price, you could have brought a chimera. It has a REAL multilaser, and a free heavy bolter to boot. And it transports stuff. And is certainly more durable than a PCS.