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As you might have seen in the tactics thread, here was the army I was thinking about running, what do you guys, think is it "wreck face" enough for a tournament scene ?

Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf Living Lightning 100pts
Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf, Murderous Hurricane Wolf Tail talisman 105pts
X3 Wolf Guard x3 Combi meltas x3 Power Fist 129pts
X7 Grey Hunters Meltagun Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen Rhino 170pts
X7 Grey Hunters Meltagun Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen Rhino 170pts
X7 Grey Hunters Meltagun Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen Rhino 170pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
X5 Long Fangs x4 Missile Launchers 115pts
Company Command Squad with lascannon and 2 plasmaguns 100pts
Platoon Command x4 meltaguns 70pts
Infantry Squad Autocannon 60pts
Infantry Squad Autocannon 60pts
Heavy Weapon Team x3 autocannons 75pts
Vendetta 130pts
16pts left to spend

I would trade out the CM for CP just because that is your combat troops, and with the 16 points maybe add an extra weapon to the vendetta.

Cm ? Cp?

He means combi melta for combi plasma.

Maybe throw heavy bolters on the vetta, and another Wolf tail talisman?

Okay I see what he means, but with the combi plasma you cant shoot it and assault !

Yeah, I would keep the melta too.

Keep the combi-meltas on the wolf guard - If you trade them out for plasma's then you wont' have anything to deal with AV14. But, switch the meltaguns on the IG command squad to plasmaguns. You don't really want that squad to get within 12" of the enemy anyway. They wan't to hang back and shoot things that have 2+ armor.

Otherwise, it looks like a fairly standard list.

Alright sounds good, what should I swap out to allow me to get plasma guns ?


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Do you think it would be good to take a hydra flak tank ?

How many points do you need? I don't have an IG codex.

75pts is the hydra flak tank, for 4 plasma guns it would be 20pts to make the melta become plasma



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The list did not fair as well as I though against necron ghost ark list

What if I made the grey hunters on foot opening up 121 points (with that extra 16pts)


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The entire foot lists minus the vendetta would look like this
Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf Living Lightning 100pts
Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf, Murderous Hurricane Wolf Tail talisman 105pts
X3 Wolf Guard x3 Combi meltas x3 Power Fist 129pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 Meltagun Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen
X10 Grey Hunters x2 Meltagun Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen
X9 Grey Hunters x1 Meltagun Wolf Standard Mark of the Wulfen

X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
X5 Long Fangs x4 Missile Launchers 115pts
Company Command Squad with lascannon and 2 plasmaguns 100pts
Platoon Command x4 meltaguns 70pts
Infantry Squad Autocannon 60pts
Infantry Squad Autocannon 60pts
Heavy Weapon Team x3 autocannons 75pts
Vendetta 130pts

I would really recomend not taking PF on wolf guard Anymore since they can be challenged and if the unit only has one character he cannot back down and he is dead.

Better to put Axes or PF in the unit hidden and keep WG simple with PW or WC at ordinary initiative.

That or you have to spend more points on characters. Space wolves has ben written with allmost only challenges in mind so we can buy more characters than others in order to avoid the dilemma of being forced to accept.

Would you use the pf for either lists, or just drop them completely


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That would free up a few points but not that much too get anything

Yes, drop powerfists, those guys will die in challenges. Go for a powerweapon maybe?

I would bring another vendettas and an ADL with quadgun, rather than all that guard.