Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Hi all ,attempting a brand new list having never played a game but now aiming at a large tournament which takes place in 2 months.
Still need to learn the game etc,but at least this gives me something to work towards. Hoping to take alot of pictures and perhaps do a diary,battle report type thing
The army is completely painted ,have 60 bestigors,80 gors,20 harpies,20 ungor raiders,6 mino and hero models etc ,not planning on getting anymore for a while

The competition also has a rule that the unit can not be more than 50 characters,500 points not including characters ..

Anyways the lists are below,would love some feedback/help tweaking it etc


Boozey Boer Battalion

Doombull ,Shield GENERAL 328 4/4 with rerolls and AWS
Sword of Swift slaying,Armour of Destiny,Dawnstone,
Gorebull BSB HA Shield 292 2+ armour saves
Gnarled hide,The beast banner
Minotaurs x6 FC GW (3x3 formation) 448
Blackened Plate
Great bray Shaman lvl 4 Beasts 393 with Bestigors
Crown of Command ,Jagged Dagger,Talisman of preservation,uncanny senses
Bray Shaman lvl 2 Beasts 150
Chalice of the dark rain,
Gor herd x40 FC AHW (10x4 formation) 345
Gor herd x40 FC AHW (10x4 formation) 345
Bestigor herd x18 FC (5x4 formation) 261 GBS /Lvl 2 Bunker Standard of Discipline
Ungor raiders x5 30
Ungor raiders x5 30
Harpies x5 55
Harpies x5 55
Razorgor 55
Razorgor 55

Lord 676/700
Hero 442/700
Core 753/700
Special 929/1400

Total 2800/2800


The idea is to have the minobus flanked either side by both Gor units protecting the flanks..Greater Bray shaman and Lvl 2 provides magic support and leadership will the sit right behind the minobus unit in the Bestigor stubborn bunker and with all 3 units in bubble.Both with Beasts this will buff the gor units when they reach combat with wyssans .Plenty of chaff as well .This is a fast moving army so will try and get to them asap.

I'd be interested in a 3rd list (not posted yet at time of this post), I know at this point value you can probably get away with a minobus/herdstone list.

Having said that I like the 2nd list a little better. I'm not a fan of S3 gor I find it lacking and you want that 206 in one of those units. Having said that I would drop the level 2, give the level 1 chalice only basically to pop early game to prevent cannons from taking out the minobus. I would also drop a unit of Gor. I think your point costs might be off for the level 1, seems like an off number for a 75 +25 point item. With the remaining points you could maybe for a 30+ bestigor unit however without a stubborn character in there and already having some heavy hitters you may want to invest in a cheap ungor tarpit 50 with musician and standard is gonna run you 259, much cheaper than one of those gor herds, and while not as killy will be more survivable with the 6+ 6++ (no T3 so it'd be about even) but they will be steadfast longer and have 12 more wounds. I'd also drop the great weapon on the gorebull as I believe you would not be able to use the shield with it equipped in close combat.

So had a play with army builder ..2800pts I can fit


Hammer 1
38xbestigors FC ,Standard of discipline + Beastlord(Crown of command,sword of might,Armour of fortune,shadowhide,Dragonbane Gem)
Hammer 2
48xGors FC + Wargor BSB 206 + lvl 1 bray shaman (Chalice of Dark rain)
Hammer 3
6xMinotaurs FC + Doombull (sword of swift slaying,Ramhorn,dawnstone,potion of toughness,uncanny senses) + Gorebull (Pelt of the shadowgave,Ironcurse icon)
Tuskgor chariots x2
Razorgor or 5x Harpies
4 of x5 ungor raiders with muso

(All for 2791/2800)

Lord 596/700
Hero 531/700
Core 701/700
Special 968/1400


Which of the 3 Hammers is more of a threat ?
And plenty of chaff/redirectors
And the Minobus is protected from alot shooting/magic/fire/warmachines.
Hit them hard and fast

As much as the Pelt of the Shadowgave looks nice for the -1 to hit with shooting you want something more defensive in combat, the point of the minobus is enemies will have to direct attacks at doombulls and gorebulls which are harder to wound. I would upgrade it to Armor of Destiny. I would also try and get at least 3 units of single razorgor or 5 harpies, drop a chariot and a unit of raiders to get this going.

Updated with a list I am aiming at..Offers a reasonably strong magic option with herdstone and lvl 4 ,a minobus,a bestigor horde with good leadership/stubborn and a large block of gors with plenty of chaff and warmachine hunters

Looking better.

Couple things though, Heavy Armor and Armor of Destiny on the doombull? Didn't do the math but you can drop the HA. 10 gor are not going to do much, I would dump the ambush unit to boost the ranks of the bestigor to 40, I would then drop the other 10 for a 3rd level 1 to stick around the herdstone, that way even if the enemy gets some harpies, gutter runners or miners back there and take one out you are still producing dice and you are getting +3 a turn instead of +2 and an extra 1 in 6 to channel and extra dice, you may even want to slap a dispel scroll on him to prevent a dwellers-like catastrophic spell on one of your units.

Cheers

Well I use army builder, so yeah the armor of destiny wont have the HA with it but gives 4/4

In order to fulfill my core requirements I need to keep those 2x10 gors.I am at 700 points.Alternatively I could increase the Gor unit to 50,add another unit of raiders and keep the 10 unit to babysit the shard or bunker the level 1. I originally had a 20 man unit ,but thought that a small ambush unit will still kill a warmachine etc and the other

Due to core cant decrease that side anymore ,otherwise I would go 37 bestigors (cant go over 500pts) ,
Alternatively If i wanted to add another 100pt mage it would cost me a razorgor and the harp unit

Ok So big update to the list,made alot of changes etc..Let me know on any character item tweaks etc


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Ok So big update to the list,made alot of changes etc..Let me know on any character item tweaks etc

Looking OK, my issue is that many bestigor are not going to do much. If you just want a bunker I would go with Gor but then you don't need a fighty GBS. I'd try and get that number to at least 28 with the shaman 6 wide 5 deep. To get there I would consider dropping a unit of harpies and a unit of razorgor.

Thanks for the feedback ,the reason for the Bestigor unt as opposed to the Gor is for the +1 leadership banner. This provides the GBS with a 9 LD bubble.
I see what you are getting at,why have a fighty GBs if it won't see combat. Will have another look at it