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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/10 23:03:35
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New York
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Hello,
I've been toying around with an Ork list featuring Wazdakka (I have a Wazdakka and 15 Warbikes, 3 of which are Nobz) and have decided to ask Dakka for some help filling in the gaps to make it capable of dealing with tanks.
For Orks:
Wazdakka
Warbikers X5 - Nob with Power Klaw and Bosspole (Included in total)
Warbikers X5 - Nob with Power Klaw and Bosspole (Included in total)
Warbikers X5 - Nob with Power Klaw and Bosspole (Included in total)
(Note that fearless range is expensive and saves can be made against bosspole wounds.)
Now, what would be a good way to add in some anti-tank to this? Allies are acceptable, though flyers aren't a key thought as they will begin to balance out soon as anti-air becomes more accessible.
Also, I play at the 1500 point level.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 00:30:53
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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Tank bustas in a battlewagon? Lootas on foot or in a battle wagon?
Necron allies would be a pretty good one to look into. Warriors in a ghost ark is a lot of gauss.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 00:46:10
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New York
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Leth wrote:Tank bustas in a battlewagon? Lootas on foot or in a battle wagon?
Necron allies would be a pretty good one to look into. Warriors in a ghost ark is a lot of gauss.
I view Tankbustas as a point sink, especially in a wagon.
I do have some Necrons, but just a box of Warriors.
Maybe Terminators? A sort of Hammer and Anvil Tactic?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 02:34:09
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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...More bikers?
Deffkotpas with tl rokkits, and a bigbomm?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 03:10:21
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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Dakka Jets provide really reliable anti-light tank (AV10~11) but then so do your bikes (though you don't have many, so it'll be harder to get enough glances vs AV11)
Haven't tried Fighta Bommaz yet but if your meta is shy on anti-air, a bomma might help vs heavier armour
TL-rokkit buggies and deffcoptaz are still amongst the cheaper and more viable long ranged anti-tank that fits in well with a Biker list.
if you're not worried about theme, Lootaz are good vs anything up to AV 12 (and maybe 13 in a pinch, if you roll high for the number of shots)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 03:47:49
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New York
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How does this look?
Wazdakka
Warbikers X5 - Nob with Power Klaw and Bosspole (Included in total)
Warbikers X5 - Nob with Power Klaw and Bosspole (Included in total)
Warbikers X5 - Nob with Power Klaw and Bosspole (Included in total)
Dakkajet - Extra Supa Shoota, Fighta Ace
Deffkoptas X2 - Twin-Linked Rokkit Launchas
Deffkoptas X2 - Twin-Linked Rokkit Launchas
Overlord - Warscythe, Mindshackle Scarabs
Catacomb Command Barge
Cryptek - Harbinger of Despair, Veil of Darkness
Warriors X12 (Cryptek goes here, so they can leap around and blow up tanks and snag objectives)
Tomb Blades X3 - Nebuloscopes, Shadowlooms (4+ jink!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 03:50:17
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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Tank Bustas with the new FAQ are not bad because now they actually have to be in range to be forced to move towards them instead of before. Also bomb squigs are still awesome and tank hammers are scary for anyone to face.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 08:35:33
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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You could try Lootas in a Skyshield as a firebase, while your bikes zoom all over..
Tankbustas + BW would be effective, but a huge fire magnet. Be sure to make your other units equally nasty
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 10:30:15
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, you need synergy with the bikers. For this, I'd consider shooty support units providing fire suppression like Lootas, and units that can accompany the bikers like Deffkoptas, Trukks, Battlewagon, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 11:16:12
Subject: Re:How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Sergeant Major
In the dark recesses of your mind...
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Warboss on bike and a big, meaty nob biker squad?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/11 23:46:29
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New York
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Would Nob Bikers honestly be that viable with Necron Allies?
If so (keep in mind that I've got 15 warbikes total, not counting HQ's, and any can become nobz), how should they be equipped?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 01:25:14
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Been running a lot of Nob Bikers lately..... They are brutal in 6th.
How many Nobz you take and what they have on them is based on points, but here's my suggestions prioritized.
1) Painboy/ cybork bodies
2) powerKlaws/WaaaghBanner
3) Kombi Scorcha's
Its an expensive unit but so far, they have always managed to make its back, or slow my opponents advance enough for my Lootas soften prime targets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 02:57:04
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
New York
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Would 2 squads of Nob Bikers be overkill? (possibly with 2 Warbosses as well)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 04:23:13
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Squishy Squig
Modesto, CA
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Dr. What wrote:Would 2 squads of Nob Bikers be overkill? (possibly with 2 Warbosses as well) Not at all. Make sure your Bosses have PKs, cybork bodies, and possibly give one a bosspole and you'd be good to go. I'd alsogive at least 2 of the Nob Bikers (one in each unit) a power klaw; it's expensive in points but you slam all of those PK Biker Orkz on the field and watch your opponent quiver in his power-armoured boots. (:<
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 04:35:27
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Dr. What wrote:Would 2 squads of Nob Bikers be overkill? (possibly with 2 Warbosses as well)
It's a lot of points in 2 units.
Nob Bikerz can handle just about anything, but will struggle against flyers, th/ ss, & anything that has Str 10. So 1 unit should be good enough, and use the rest of the points on long range fire power to lend support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 06:58:03
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I would try it both ways.
2 mobs would give you some ugly brutality, buit no support points.
1 would be markedly less vicous, but better supported.
I run 2 mobs of 7 nobz in my current biker list.
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/12 07:21:35
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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I'd go with your starting idea, but would add 2 battlewagons full of boyz and 3x5 lootas... And if you then expand it to 1750, dakkajet and 2 rokkit defkoptas...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/13 00:12:34
Subject: How to fill in the gaps of a Wazdakka list.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You'll want something that kills tanks and flyers, but fits in with a bunch of nonmech that brings its own cover.
Given your list I would bring wazdakka and 2 largish squads of bikes as the allies for a another parent army.
necron flying saucers or IG aeroplanes would probably be the best parents for your bikers.
They will bring the antitank and flyer, your bikers are in charge of staying alive and getting where flyers are struggling, also not being tabled when the flyer are off the board.
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