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Hey guys,

So I have a friend that I play a lot and he takes Chaos space marines. He also is a fan of absolutely spamming Obliterators, and I just get pounded in to the ground every time I play him.

I usually play Necrons (I've had moderate success with spamming Wraiths) and some times Blood Angels. So my question to you is how would you deal with such a tactic?

Cheers

Kill his Lash Princes and spread out. Oblits really don't pack a lot of punch for their points, in my opinion. 3 Plasma Cannon shots won't do a huge amount of damage if you keep a 2 inch coherency (this is why you need to kill the Lash princes) and 3 Lascannon shots will do even less against you unless you are running AV13 spam. Both weapons are ineffective against Wraiths, which can close the distance to the Oblits quickly and murder them with rending attacks. Getting a surf-lord into melee with the Oblits would end them pretty quickly, too.

Fliers might work too, but dropping off your troops leaves them vulnerable to plasma blasts.

Death & Despair is the easiest way to remove one-trick armies like your friend's.

3x doom scythes...

I feel like death rays would just own obliterators with a quickness. And you'd have plenty of time to finish them off.

Is fateweaver not involved here? If they aren't rerolling those saves, then tesla destructors would wreck them just from sheer buckets of saves to take.

Best way to avoid it apart from agreeing with what uncle meat said is to stop playing with him.
I m a chaos player and I stopped playing this horribly boring list long time ago.
I hope we will se something more interesting than "oh look I brought my 9 oblits again"
And my 2 lash princes

avedominusnox wrote:I hope we will se something more interesting than "oh look I brought my 9 oblits again"
And my 2 lash princes

I would hope your opponents would be able to figure out how to negate the ol' one trick pony list.

Spamming Wraiths feels just as dirty as him taking so many obbies!

Maybe I've just had bad luck so far (he has such good luck rolling to scatter and those damn 5+ saves! Hell I've only twice rolled anything other than a 1 to take the first turn in the past few months!), I've tried the surf lord thing twice now and he just insta kills them.

The Death and Despair tactic isn't something I've looked into, I shall check out my codex as I'm not familiar with it when I get home from work.

And Jihallah, apparently I suck too much to negate it :(

Thanks for th replies thus far, I appreciate it!

Obliterators are good, but they suffer from one serious problem - crippling inefficiency. The amount of firepower they put out per point is atrocious, even by CSM standards.

The key here, then, isn't to focus on the obliterators, but to focus on what your opponent has had to give up in order to field obliterators. If you're playing a 1500 point game, and your opponent is showing up with 6 obliterators, that's a third of their points.

As for how to kill them specifically, just use the same tactic you use to handle paladins, as they're basically the same thing. Just be glad that oblits can't take psycannons...

Having never played Paladins I wouldn't know said tactic, but I get your point about focusing on the other units. I guess I probably get too worried about them and focus on them.

As a scenario we played yesterday (there are 3 of us that live together so usually it's a similar set up) me and SM had 1500 pts and Chaos on their own therefore had 3000.

1-motherflippin-6 obbys. Resulted in a lot of death on our part.

In a 1500 point game I think I'd stand a better chance as he probs won't be able to take 9 obbys without limiting himself.

Doom scythes, they haven't much that can touch them.
Actually I assume chaos marines now bring daemon allies to deal with flyers?

Anyway death ray instant kills them easily enough.

For blood angels I assume now with wall of flamer, I believe they have TLheavy flamers, you can now longer assault them successfully. You used to have furious charge and hit at I5, all nice and safely.
However, I would say chuck odd krak missiles at them, instant killing is the way to go, or use ap2 weapons. The rest of your weapons should kill his other units.