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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 01:18:06
Subject: Assault parties in a building - strong debate needing relief.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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There is a debate on one of the rules for the assault party and looking to see if anyone has a more solid answer.
The argument is that if you have 10 characters in the party and your enemy has 10 regular ( or even a character or more amongst the assault party) assault party members, that no more then up to half your assault party can attack the characters.
So if you have 10 characters, the enemy can only opt to have up to no more then half fighting them, so the rest of your assault party can not fight any other characters.
The other argument is that up to half can attack 1 character, but the other assault party members could attack another character ( up to half).
The first argument says the remainder of that assault party can not attack any other characters because up to half are already fighting a character and all 10 characters in the one assault party are considered to be the "Them" that the up to half can attack ( even if attacks are allocated to just one).
Need insight on this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 02:56:19
Subject: Re:Assault parties in a building - strong debate needing relief.
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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The way I read it, up to half your models can attack any individual character.
The other reading is completely unreasonable and obviously not intended.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 03:03:33
Subject: Assault parties in a building - strong debate needing relief.
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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I'm onboard with Nitros14.
Also- who's managed to make an assault party with 10 characters? Goblins?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 04:45:20
Subject: Re:Assault parties in a building - strong debate needing relief.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The wording in the book says no more then up to half your assault party can attack them. Them being the characters. So according to the book if you have 5 guys attacking one character, then no other characters can be attacked by any other guys you have in your assault party.
So if one party has 10 characters, and you have 5 guys attacking 1 or their attacks are spread out around more characters, then the " no more then up to half can attack them" part of the rule has been carried out and the other 5 guys don't get to attack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 06:07:58
Subject: Re:Assault parties in a building - strong debate needing relief.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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SoCxWarChief wrote:The wording in the book says no more then up to half your assault party can attack them. Them being the characters. So according to the book if you have 5 guys attacking one character, then no other characters can be attacked by any other guys you have in your assault party. 'Them' in that sense can be used in place of 'him'. That's how gender neutral pronouns work. So, for instance, you might say "If you see a person waiting by this door can you let them in." And this, by the way, is everything that's wrong with ruling on RAW down to the exact word.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/15 06:08:48
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 07:11:59
Subject: Assault parties in a building - strong debate needing relief.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
The Great White North
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I would play its as the 10v10 as normal.
5 hits on 1 character and 5 hits on another character.
ALL 10 guys are hitting someon half on one half on the other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 09:43:21
Subject: Assault parties in a building - strong debate needing relief.
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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I still want to know who runs 10 characters in an army, much less in the same unit.
For goblins that is a minimum character cost of 350 points in the unit, for skaven 150. So maybe skaven, but again I don't see the point.
Might as well argue about what happens when 5 dragons charge the same skirmishing unit. Sure we could work out the details, but the situation wouldn't likely ever come up in a real game, unless intentionally to hash out the details.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/16 06:45:11
Subject: Assault parties in a building - strong debate needing relief.
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Aerethan wrote:I still want to know who runs 10 characters in an army, much less in the same unit.
It doesn't need to be ten characters, it can be just two characters to cause this issue.
If it's just two characters, am I limited to 5 assault party members at most on each character, or five attacks on the characters as a whole? Same question basically, and quite likely to happen.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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