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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 10:14:01
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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Simple really, I've just finished an army and want to use it in its entirety but am I at a disadvantage because Im not using allies?
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"Do or do not. There is no try"
"Truth is subjective"
Inquisitor Stelios
"Always assume your enemy knows something you do not"
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing."
Brother-Librarian Sebastion Adonis
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 10:52:50
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Roaring Reaver Rider
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No, not really. You can make very good lists without allies.
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I shall rule the world someday utilizing my cuteness. And I already have one minion to help me do it!
Hollowman wrote:
Of course it makes sense. When there are a bunch of BDSM clowns doing Olympic gymnast routines throughout your unit, while also cutting off heads, you tend to get a bit distracted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 11:20:39
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Allies can be very useful filling parts in your army which it cannot accomplish, like a shooty army with a cc-oriented detachment,say for counter-strike, or an assault-based army with shooty-oriented detachment able to provide fire support.
I'd take allies in higher pt games, say 1750 or larger.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 11:24:34
Subject: Re:To aly, or not to ally?
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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The whole idea of Allies is to provide your main army with something they lack, e.g. Tau give Orks some great long range anti-heavy armor or anti- TEQ firepower or using Eldar or Space Wolves for anti-Psyker. Of course you could also use Allies to make completely broken combinations like the Eldar/Dark Eldar Fortuned Harlequin and Shadow Field Archon unit. So look at what your army does, what it is good at and what armies you have trouble with. If you can't come up with reliable solution with your own codex, turn to another.
And wuestenfux just beat me to the general gist
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 11:50:21
Subject: Re:To aly, or not to ally?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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BlackSanguinor wrote:The whole idea of Allies is to provide your main army with something they lack, e.g. Tau give Orks some great long range anti-heavy armor or anti- TEQ firepower or using Eldar or Space Wolves for anti-Psyker. Of course you could also use Allies to make completely broken combinations like the Eldar/Dark Eldar Fortuned Harlequin and Shadow Field Archon unit. So look at what your army does, what it is good at and what armies you have trouble with. If you can't come up with reliable solution with your own codex, turn to another.
And wuestenfux just beat me to the general gist 
Nevertheless, good points.
The Eldar/ DE combo is nasty but their weaknesses can be exploited.
Flamers can do it or a vehicle (say a Rhino) positioned in such a way that the closest model is not the Archon.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 11:55:00
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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gaovinni wrote:No, not really. You can make very good lists without allies.
This. Honestly the only reason I am considering allies is because it looks cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 12:22:16
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Allies is a great opportunity from a modelling perspective to add a little variety into an existing force. And if you intend to start a second army having finished the first then starting with an allied detachment will give you a chance to play with your new units without having spent out on a completely new army all in one go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 13:46:34
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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I personally dont want allies i like my pure SW force, but when i face my mates BA flyer and fail to take it out before its in my deployment and droping off its cargo i kinda feel like i'm being forced into either taking IG for hydras, or buying aegis defense lines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 14:14:43
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Roaring Reaver Rider
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hobojebus wrote:I personally dont want allies i like my pure SW force, but when i face my mates BA flyer and fail to take it out before its in my deployment and droping off its cargo i kinda feel like i'm being forced into either taking IG for hydras, or buying aegis defense lines.
Buy a bastion. Paint it like your SW and put a banner somewhere in it and now you have a small outpost instead of the oh so usual aegis
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I shall rule the world someday utilizing my cuteness. And I already have one minion to help me do it!
Hollowman wrote:
Of course it makes sense. When there are a bunch of BDSM clowns doing Olympic gymnast routines throughout your unit, while also cutting off heads, you tend to get a bit distracted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 16:53:12
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
Some Throne-Forsaken Battlefield on the other side of the Galaxy
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Allies aren't a necessity at all. It's entirely possible to make a good list without allies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/15 17:09:17
Subject: To aly, or not to ally?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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It's not Ideal but I love bringing Ork allies with my Necron, their units are hilarious and their lootas make great anti air units.
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Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius! |
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