SW Frost weapons

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**patrickparker**

A frost weapon is an unusual power weapon correct? If it is, if I model it as a Frost Axe does it count as unwieldy?

**CrashCanuck**

Frost Swords and Frost Axes now have their own specific rules, check your FAQ, it has the info you want.

**Happyjew**

Answered in the FAQ.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2420319a_Space_Wolves_6th_Ed_V1.pdf

**patrickparker**

Wow, I cant believe I missed that. Thanks for the quick replys!

**cowmonaut**

Reading through the Space Wolf Codex, it is really obvious they knew of some of the changes coming in 6th edition and did what they could to make the Codex work for 6th edition. The term "frost weapon" is never found anywhere in the Codex, they are always listed as "Frost Blade" and "Frost Axe" and Logan Grimnar's Axe is said to be able to act like a "Frost Blade" right in his original rules (and not the FAQ like some people say).

I just wish the rules made more sense for Frost Axes! Why pay the same points for less Strength when everything else is equal?

**liturgies of blood**

cowmonaut wrote:Reading through the Space Wolf Codex, it is really obvious they knew of some of the changes coming in 6th edition and did what they could to make the Codex work for 6th edition. The term "frost weapon" is never found anywhere in the Codex, they are always listed as "Frost Blade" and "Frost Axe" and Logan Grimnar's Axe is said to be able to act like a "Frost Blade" right in his original rules (and not the FAQ like some people say).

I just wish the rules made more sense for Frost Axes! Why pay the same points for less Strength when everything else is equal?

What do you mean? Blade vs axe?
I can see a reason why you'd want one over the other. The real question is frost axe or power fist. That is a hard one to square.

**Grugknuckle**

cowmonaut wrote:Reading through the Space Wolf Codex, it is really obvious they knew of some of the changes coming in 6th edition and did what they could to make the Codex work for 6th edition. The term "frost weapon" is never found anywhere in the Codex, they are always listed as "Frost Blade" and "Frost Axe" and Logan Grimnar's Axe is said to be able to act like a "Frost Blade" right in his original rules (and not the FAQ like some people say).

They weren't predicting 6th ed, they were keeping with 3rd ed tradition. Back then a frost blade and frost axe were different.

**hobojebus**

I doubt back in 2009 the knew what 6th ed would look like, certainly if they knew 6th was going to make frost axes redundant they might of made them cheaper.

**liturgies of blood**

hobojebus wrote:I doubt back in 2009 the knew what 6th ed would look like, certainly if they knew 6th was going to make frost axes redundant they might of made them cheaper.

Ten points more for extra strength is reasonable for the frost blade, the axe is probably just a hangover from 3rd and 5th ed codices.
The axe is only good if you are on a thunderwolf and want the extra attack, even then you should probably take a fist and a sheild.

**Anpu42**

Were the Frost Axe shines is with Terminators and Thunderwolves.

With Terminator Armor it gives you a Cheep S6 AP2 Weapon, great for fighting other Terminators and if you take something like a Power Maul you will be getting 3 S6 Attacks with your Wolf Guard.

With a Thunder Lord you will get 6 Attacks when mixed with another CCW like a Bolt Pistol or Plasma Pistol. Honestly the other good choice is a Power Mace and Storm Shield; it gives you 5 S7 Attacks. That’s wounding a Carnifex on a 3+. If you want the Storm Shield, yes take a Power Fist or Thunder Hammer.

I am not saying they are the answer to every situation, but they have there uses.
Me fix Derp

**liturgies of blood**

Anpu42 wrote:Were the Frost Axe shines is with Terminators, Thunderwolves and Blood Claws.

With Terminator Armor it gives you a free S6 AP2 Weapon, great for fighting other Terminators and if you take something like a Power Maul you will be getting 3 S6 Attacks with your Wolf Guard.

With a Thunder Lord you will get 6 Attacks when mixed with another CCW like a Bolt Pistol or Plasma Pistol. Honestly the other good choice is a Power Mace and Storm Shield; it gives you 5 S7 Attacks. That’s wounding a Carnifex on a 3+. If you want the Storm Shield, yes take a Power Fist or Thunder Hammer.

With Blood Claws it can give you an amazing 4 S6 AP2 Attacks on the charge relatively cheaply, that is wounding T4 on a 2+ and if you have Wolf Priest that almost guaranties 3-4 wounds.

I am not saying they are the answer to every situation, but they have there uses.

Few issues.
1)Blood claws cannot have a frost axe.
2)Terminators should take a fist as they are unlikely to take two ccw's, two non specialist ccw isn't an option for WG, so they are never gonna get the +1 attack. The fist gives them better strength.
I think you might have power axe and frost axe mistaken when it comes to terminators, they get a free power weapon but have to spend the points difference for the frost weapon.

**Anpu42**

liturgies of blood wrote:
Anpu42 wrote:Were the Frost Axe shines is with Terminators and Thunderwolves.

With Terminator Armor it gives you a Cheep S6 AP2 Weapon, great for fighting other Terminators and if you take something like a Power Maul you will be getting 3 S6 Attacks with your Wolf Guard.

With a Thunder Lord you will get 6 Attacks when mixed with another CCW like a Bolt Pistol or Plasma Pistol. Honestly the other good choice is a Power Mace and Storm Shield; it gives you 5 S7 Attacks. That’s wounding a Carnifex on a 3+. If you want the Storm Shield, yes take a Power Fist or Thunder Hammer.

I am not saying they are the answer to every situation, but they have there uses.

Few issues.
1)Blood claws cannot have a frost axe.
2)Terminators should take a fist as they are unlikely to take two ccw's, two non specialist ccw isn't an option for WG, so they are never gonna get the +1 attack. The fist gives them better strength.
I think you might have power axe and frost axe mistaken when it comes to terminators, they get a free power weapon but have to spend the points difference for the frost weapon.

Me Brain goes Derp on ocasion, me fix.
This was a left over set of thoughts from the Power Weapon Discusion.

**hobojebus**

liturgies of blood wrote:
hobojebus wrote:I doubt back in 2009 the knew what 6th ed would look like, certainly if they knew 6th was going to make frost axes redundant they might of made them cheaper.

Ten points more for extra strength is reasonable for the frost blade, the axe is probably just a hangover from 3rd and 5th ed codices.
The axe is only good if you are on a thunderwolf and want the extra attack, even then you should probably take a fist and a sheild.

I did say axes, frost blades are still worth considering but a powerfist is the same cost as a frost axe and is just superior in my mind.

And on my thunderwolves i prefer to take a s10 thunderhammer, even if i dont outright kill something concusive can still make a difference.

And i didnt mention terminators because the whole +1A argument does not really apply to power axes, and again i'd still take a fist over an axe if i have the points spare, axes can kill AV11 at best a fist has the potential to kill anything in game.