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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/17 19:17:03
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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I'm always hearing that DA favour plasam and are more plasma specalists than everyone else but have never seen any fluff to support this.
If any one could point me in the right direction I would be most greatful, thank you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/17 19:18:34
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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It's not that they "favour" plasma because "We're the plasma marines!".
It's that they utilize more plasma weaponry due to the fact that they were the First Legion, and have a hell of a lot more artifacts from the Great Crusade/Heresy era in a usable condition than the other Founding Legions have.
Remember: plasma weaponry is complex and relatively rare now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 17:02:26
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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And looks to be supported by the new DA loadout in the starter set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 17:10:58
Subject: Re:Dark Angels and plasma
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Mutating Changebringer
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Dark Angels were the first legion created and the last primarch found.
As a result the legion had extensive gear for most of the crusade.
After finding the Lion (and his world which had power armour already) the Emperor granted the Dark Angels the shiney new Tactical Dreadnought Armour along with other gear.
This is why DAs have a ton of terminator suits, plasma, the last known human jetbike ect.
Supposedly the only legion with more (or equal) suits of Terminator armour were the Sons of Horus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 19:22:01
Subject: Re:Dark Angels and plasma
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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DeffDred wrote:Dark Angels were the first legion created and the last primarch found.
Wat? I thought Alpharius/Omegon were the last found, and that Lion was around long enough to rack up quite a few victories compared to most of his brothers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/18 22:59:55
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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yeah he is wrong, Lion was about 6/7th found IIRC, Alpharius was indeed the last and he was found by horus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/19 17:41:23
Subject: Re:Dark Angels and plasma
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Mutating Changebringer
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Maybe it was retconned. The older explination for the amount of TDA in the DA army was because their primarch was discovered last.
Alpharius didn't have a back story until the HH novels. Omegon didn't exist until Legion.
Heres some facts we know:
1. Horus was discovered first.
2. Alpharius Omegon was discovered last.
3. Perturabo was discovered before Angron and Guilliman. (Source: After Desh'ea)
4. Magnus was discovered before Lorgar. (as he, alongside the Emperor discovered Lorgar)
5. Fulgrim was discovered around 160 years before the Horus Heresy as his flagship was built then. (Source: Fulgrim)
6. Fulgrim was discovered before Konrad Curze.
7. Jaghatai Khan was discovered before the Lion. (The Dark Angels first mission (Post-Primarch Discovery) was taking over from the White Scars)
8. The Lion was discovered roughly 148 years after the start of the Great Crusade. (Fallen Angels is set in the 203rd Year, and also set 50 years after Descent of Angels.)
9. Rogal Dorn was discovered seventh according to the Horus Heresy Chapbook.
10. According to 'Fulgrim' the gun Ferrus Manus made for Vulkan was forged 200 years prior to Isstvan III (ish), therefore both Ferrus Manus and Vulkan would have been discovered 200 years prior to the Heresy, which would make them two of the first found, although I fear this may have just been a mistake by Graham McNeill.
11. All the Primarchs were discovered prior to the Ullanor campaign. (Source: Legion)
12. Vulkan was discovered before Angron. (Source: After Desh'ea)
13. Guilliman was discovered before Angron. (Source: After Desh'ea)
14. Mortarion, Corax and Dorn were discovered before Magnus (Source: A Thousand Sons Page 385-387)
15. Magnus implied to have been discovered before Fulgrim, Ferrus Manus & Lorgar - although not conclusive evidence (Source: A Thousand Sons Page 96)
16. Magnus, the Khan and Sanguinius discovered before the Lion (Source: A Thousand Sons Page 322)
Where no information exists on certain primarchs we can logically assume their discovery order in accordance to there homeworlds distance from Terra. From this we can assume that following Horus; Magnus, Russ and Sanguinius were some of the early discoveries. (Although this is not solid evidence).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/19 20:46:50
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Alpharius has always had a backstory. I remember before I teenager, so we're talking around 7 years ago probably, reading it IA for the Alpha Legion, Horus found Alpharius, the LAST Primarch to be found.
Back OT, DA use plasma so much because they just got more as the first legion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 16:03:53
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Mutating Changebringer
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Sir Samuel Buca wrote:Alpharius has always had a backstory. I remember before I teenager, so we're talking around 7 years ago probably, reading it IA for the Alpha Legion, Horus found Alpharius, the LAST Primarch to be found.
Back OT, DA use plasma so much because they just got more as the first legion.
Those same IA articles alos say that the Grey Knights have the same colorsceme as the Deathwatch except they have two silver arms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/20 16:52:32
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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DeffDred wrote: Sir Samuel Buca wrote:Alpharius has always had a backstory. I remember before I teenager, so we're talking around 7 years ago probably, reading it IA for the Alpha Legion, Horus found Alpharius, the LAST Primarch to be found.
Back OT, DA use plasma so much because they just got more as the first legion.
Those same IA articles alos say that the Grey Knights have the same colorsceme as the Deathwatch except they have two silver arms.
It still proves you wrong about Alpharius having no backstory before the HH novels, he had just as much as anyone. Everything Alpharius is known for, the subterfuge, being close to Horus, keeping secrets ect. is described in that article.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 03:09:18
Subject: Re:Dark Angels and plasma
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Fresh-Faced New User
Indiana, USA
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IIRC, the plasma fluff was added with the DA Index Astartes article in WD several years ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 05:09:03
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Mutating Changebringer
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Sir Samuel Buca wrote: DeffDred wrote: Sir Samuel Buca wrote:Alpharius has always had a backstory. I remember before I teenager, so we're talking around 7 years ago probably, reading it IA for the Alpha Legion, Horus found Alpharius, the LAST Primarch to be found.
Back OT, DA use plasma so much because they just got more as the first legion.
Those same IA articles alos say that the Grey Knights have the same colorsceme as the Deathwatch except they have two silver arms.
It still proves you wrong about Alpharius having no backstory before the HH novels, he had just as much as anyone. Everything Alpharius is known for, the subterfuge, being close to Horus, keeping secrets ect. is described in that article.
Even still, those articles talk more about the history of the Alpha Legion than Alpharius himself.
Aparently Alpharius is taller than average marines despite Legion claiming that Alpharius and Omegon are identical to average marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 07:08:37
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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DeffDred wrote: Sir Samuel Buca wrote: DeffDred wrote: Sir Samuel Buca wrote:Alpharius has always had a backstory. I remember before I teenager, so we're talking around 7 years ago probably, reading it IA for the Alpha Legion, Horus found Alpharius, the LAST Primarch to be found.
Back OT, DA use plasma so much because they just got more as the first legion.
Those same IA articles alos say that the Grey Knights have the same colorsceme as the Deathwatch except they have two silver arms.
It still proves you wrong about Alpharius having no backstory before the HH novels, he had just as much as anyone. Everything Alpharius is known for, the subterfuge, being close to Horus, keeping secrets ect. is described in that article.
Even still, those articles talk more about the history of the Alpha Legion than Alpharius himself.
Aparently Alpharius is taller than average marines despite Legion claiming that Alpharius and Omegon are identical to average marines.
And Lion may have been a traitor, fluff changes over time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/21 10:05:04
Subject: Dark Angels and plasma
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Alpharius omegon was found last. He had made an army and a crude navy and was exploring space unawares, and then found by horus, after a firefight where some of omegons men were killed by horus. Horus didnt shoot omegon because he was so fast and realized at the last moment who he was
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