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Who hates:
Inqusition fanboys (" Fenris is of limit to them and their ships after Armaggedon :- "
Grey Knights fanboys (" Logan chopped few ,so what "
Codex fanboys
SoB fanboys/girls ("So they killed a few,who hasn't "
Cultists(Imperial & chaos)
TRAITOR thousand sons fanboys who have read only one book (read: "Thousand sons" and still think Magnus is loyal -----> "they are the worst - like that @Omegon dude"
Dark Angels fanboys -(over a brawl between primarchs,silly I know - legions managed their differences through dueling but fans didn't)
Funny but I know a guy who is Blood Ravens fan and he hates them because . LOL and LOL
Fans who are alchohol intolerant
Jealous guys who don't like them Abnett-portrayed as Emperors executioners

Who loves:
Viking Fans
Guys who love to DRINK,EAT and tell stories
Anyone who likes a good fight and like to stand up for the weaker
True Loyalists - loyal to the Emperor, not the corrupt system
Anyone who hates the rules
Anyone who did get goosebumps when Russ steped first on Prospero
I'll stop because it won't be objective anymore

This is my exp,I AM A SW FANBOY and if I'm wrong tell me...
Now shoot you bastards, you can only kill this post.....

You know, criticising "fanboys", whilst simultaneously being a Space Wolf "fanboy" probably isn't the best thing you can do.

Either way, I don't see what you expect to result from this thread except a concentrated area of Space Wolf hate. Bye!

 Just Dave wrote:
You know, criticising "fanboys", whilst simultaneously being a Space Wolf "fanboy" probably isn't the best thing you can do.

Either way, I don't see what you expect to result from this thread except a concentrated area of Space Wolf hate. Bye!

Yep but I feed on that...and I won't someone to prove me wrong....

It's not proving right and wrong, its different interpretations and opinions.

That is the beauty of AD-B's The Emperors Gift and its portrayal of the post-Armageddon culling; you can favour either side of the argument (Wolves or Inq.) and still have valid reasoning and an argument.
Personally, I agree with the Wolves in the matter, but I can understand other people not doing so.
It's not right and wrong, its different opinions.

 Just Dave wrote:
It's not proving right and wrong, its different interpretations and opinions.

That is the beauty of AD-B's The Emperors Gift and its portrayal of the post-Armageddon culling; you can favour either side of the argument (Wolves or Inq.) and still have valid reasoning and an argument.
Personally, I agree with the Wolves in the matter, but I can understand other people not doing so.
It's not right and wrong, its different opinions.

This isn't about EG, not at all ,only I think there are more haters of the wolves on this forum than fans, that's my point....and if I want to state something I'll get stabed five times just for facts....sorry now I'm ranting

I like Space Wolves lore. The thing I really like is that, unlike most of the Imperium, they have a very strong sense of honor. Most Space Marine Chapters could care less for the common soldier, but those that fight alongside the Space Wolves are considered Brothers. Thus, why Grimnar gets so mad at the end of the first Armageddon War.

The real question of whether youre a true fanboy or not would come if they got some ridiculous piece of fluff that you still backed up. Like, if Grimnar killed Abaddon the Despoiler and made it look easy and you argued that it was legit, then you'd be a fanboy.

Or you know, they are stupid. Wolfey wolf wolves. I mean I get that they like wolves, they don't need to ride wolves and call their scouts blood CLAWS or their devastators long FANGS, their elites are WOLF guard, they have LONE WOLVES or ride actual wolves. I mean a space viking theme is actual pretty cool, wolf obsessed people theme, not so much. Using names based off of Norse warriors would be much cooler than slapping the word wolf or claw or fang onto something.

I mean I am cool with some comedy in my setting, I love Orks, they are great fun to play against, but even they aren't as stupidly named as Space Wolves. Even when they are people don't treat them as a logical army, no one says "Orks are the most efficient and competent army."

I like SW but I am also GK Fan? Is that wrong?

Emporers gift actully portraits logan and SW to be good guys. The inquisition are on the wrong side and even the GKs forgive them. So why shouldn't the fans.

Buttons wrote:
Or you know, they are stupid. Wolfey wolf wolves. I mean I get that they like wolves, they don't need to ride wolves and call their scouts blood CLAWS or their devastators long FANGS, their elites are WOLF guard, they have LONE WOLVES or ride actual wolves. I mean a space viking theme is actual pretty cool, wolf obsessed people theme, not so much. Using names based off of Norse warriors would be much cooler than slapping the word wolf or claw or fang onto something.

I mean I am cool with some comedy in my setting, I love Orks, they are great fun to play against, but even they aren't as stupidly named as Space Wolves. Even when they are people don't treat them as a logical army, no one says "Orks are the most efficient and competent army."

See....that's just your opinion dude,don't need to be disrespectful,I like this setting and why the hell you have "lone wolf sentinel pilot" status if you hate wolfey-wolves?

 DarthMarko wrote:
"lone wolf sentinel pilot" status if you hate wolfey-wolves?

Because I have yet to advance beyond the worst named IG rank there is.

Buttons wrote:

 DarthMarko wrote:
"lone wolf sentinel pilot" status if you hate wolfey-wolves?

Because I have yet to advance beyond the worst named IG rank there is.

True hater you are....now give me more....I like your frustration....

I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of this thread is ...

Either way, although I don't think my feelings on the subject qualify as true "hate", I sure dislike their current version. I would have to feel a lot stronger and more emotional for this to be hate, but the intense level of special snowflake'ness, the hype and the plot armour (things I cannot stand in any army) really turns me away from them. Which is kinda sad, for at the very core, I always thought the idea of "Viking Space Marines" is rather awesome, and I still like their colour scheme. I just don't agree with the execution concerning certain controversial incidents in their history as well as the degree of just how much they differ from other Marine Chapters. To put it simply, they are "too speshul" for me to endorse. Being a Space Marine should mean something ("narrative balance", "strengths and weaknesses"), yet the SW are pretty much godmode bikers in power armour. Meh.

Just one opinion on the vast internet, though. Each and every army is bound to have people that like it as well as people who dislike it. Their fans shouldn't take the banter to heart too much, just accept that there's going to be people disagreeing with them.

 Lynata wrote:
I'm not entirely sure what the purpose of this thread is ...

Either way, although I don't think my feelings on the subject qualify as true "hate", I sure dislike their current version. I would have to feel a lot stronger and more emotional for this to be hate, but the intense level of special snowflake'ness, the hype and the plot armour (things I cannot stand in any army) really turns me away from them. Which is kinda sad, for at the very core, I always thought the idea of "Viking Space Marines" is rather awesome, and I still like their colour scheme. I just don't agree with the execution concerning certain controversial incidents in their history as well as the degree of just how much they differ from other Marine Chapters. To put it simply, they are "too speshul" for me to endorse. Being a Space Marine should mean something ("narrative balance", "strengths and weaknesses"), yet the SW are pretty much godmode bikers in power armour. Meh.

Just one opinion on the vast internet, though. Each and every army is bound to have people that like it as well as people who dislike it. Their fans shouldn't take the banter to heart too much, just accept that there's going to be people disagreeing with them.

Hi Lynata! First I' understand you and on the other hand I' don't.... I like to think that being different is cool, just imagine that all SM chapters are like Wardish UM !? It would have been boring as hell, but you are very pragmatic guy I dare to say so I understand you....
For me they aren't godmode bikers rather unique chapter with big flaws and qualities alike...

DarthMarko wrote:I like to think that being different is cool

I think that's the chief reason. It's all boiling down to personal preferences; just look at how many different opinions there are on various movies etc.

Take the Ultramarines, for example. To me, they are less boring but rather loyal, stable, reliable ... a solid bastion of calm in a chaotic and dark future, entirely committed to the good of mankind. Given how liberal, almost rebellious the other Marines often act, it's almost as if the Ultramarines stand apart by being one of the few Chapters that genuinely cares about something greater than themselves, and thus actually fulfilling the role they were intended for. Some players think that rebelling against the oppressive Imperium is cool, whereas I think that being part of the system is cooler. This is the 41st millennium after all; if I wanted to make a point about fighting for tolerance and progress I'd be playing Tau, to whose propaganda this probably fits a bit better.
I guess it depends on what we see in the setting, too. How much grimdark to we like in "our" 40k? How epic should it be? Are we preferring heroic sagas in the vein of Zeus and Odysseus, or do we prefer gritty battles between vast armies where a single life is meaning less? Are we fighting for that glimmer of hope, or for bare survival? All of this influences our perception of the various factions.

I also wouldn't say I'm completely averse to the idea of differences - I certainly like an army to have some unique perks. It just depends on how well they fit in with the rest (meaning any organisation they belong to, or the setting as a whole). Needless to say, all of us will have their own thresholds on when exactly something stops fitting in.



In a way, 40k is rather impressive in that it features an army for just about anyone, catering to such a wide range of players.

I don't like the SW. They're just too goofy for me. "Ahh yes, I am Wolf Lord McWolfy-Viking-soundingname, I am armed in wolf armour, adorned with wolf talismans, carrying a wolf sword with wolf rounds, surrounded by wolves." And don't get me started on the hair. The beards are okay sometimes though.

The Space Wolves have all the potential in the universe to be incredibly awesome. Sadly they come off as some of the most arrogant, conflicting contradictory (we're total party animals, but we're also so dark and brooding...), pants-on-head-slowed (we fire artillery by SMELL!!!) confused and just overblown caricatures of awful viking parody ever seen in the worst traditions of bad internet fanfic that almost always are portrayed as "Marines...but BETTER!"

Are they alone in this? No, but they're certainly amongst the worst offenders.

I kinda liked the Wolves until I read the Emperors Gift.

Now I think they're just rogue dogs that need to be brought to heel.

I can't tell if you are trolling, or are just someone who read William King's "novels" at a very impressionable age. I had to laugh at the irony of the "being different is cool" line. Do you also happen to shop at Hot Topic?

Anyway, Vaktathi summarized the main issue with Space Wolves.

 TheCrazyCryptek wrote:


The real question of whether youre a true fanboy or not would come if they got some ridiculous piece of fluff that you still backed up. Like, if Grimnar killed Abaddon the Despoiler and made it look easy and you argued that it was legit, then you'd be a fanboy.

This also made me laugh, since in the Vs. thread, the OP did just that.

Hey I take offense to the Dark Angel thing, I happen to find Space Wolves quite awesome, just about .05% less awesome than Dark Angels.

They're a disgrace to the manliness of actual vikings.

Read Vinland Saga or something, or hell, play Skyrim.

Much manlier Viking manliness.

I actually kind of liked Prospero Burns' depiction of the Space Wolves, but frankly the setting bends over backwards to accomodate them, they do whatever the hell they want (While being inconsistently characterised) without facing any form of vague retribution.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
they do whatever the hell they want (While being inconsistently characterised) without facing any form of vague retribution.

honestly the reason they probably get away with alot of their shenanigans is that they are a first founding chapter that undoubtedly has many markers to call in, from inquisitors (William King books), to other chapters (If push came to shove I believe the other first and second founding chapters would come to their aid due to the implications of the IoM flattening a first founding chapter), to Imperial Guard Regiments (space wolves are known for their good relations amongst other Imperial forces).

hmmmph whatever type of Sm you are , there is no match for the massed firepower of IG so imma just stand in the corner and let you argue

 Wardragoon wrote:
they are a first founding chapter

This is a common misconception.

The first founding was the legions. The second founding was the splitting of the legions into chapters.

All second founding chapters are first founding legions. Or rather, all members of the second founding have as much claim to status and glory, regardless of their chapter name.

The Black Templars and Crimson Fists for example, are second founding Chapters descended from the Imperial Fists. But all three Chapters have equal claim to the actions of the Imperial Fists legion. The Imperial Fists, the Black Templars and the Crimson Fists are all second founding Chapters, and all equal, it's just that one of them is the name-sake of their old legion.

 Kaldor wrote:

 Wardragoon wrote:
they are a first founding chapter

This is a common misconception.

The first founding was the legions. The second founding was the splitting of the legions into chapters.

All second founding chapters are first founding legions. Or rather, all members of the second founding have as much claim to status and glory, regardless of their chapter name.

The Black Templars and Crimson Fists for example, are second founding Chapters descended from the Imperial Fists. But all three Chapters have equal claim to the actions of the Imperial Fists legion. The Imperial Fists, the Black Templars and the Crimson Fists are all second founding Chapters, and all equal, it's just that one of them is the name-sake of their old legion.

True, I did correct it later on with the First and second founding coming to their side

DarthMarko wrote:

Yep but I feed on that....

Wouldn't you rather have some Hummus?

 Pilau Rice wrote:

DarthMarko wrote:

Yep but I feed on that....

Wouldn't you rather have some Hummus?

Yummy


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 Void__Dragon wrote:
They're a disgrace to the manliness of actual vikings.

Read Vinland Saga or something, or hell, play Skyrim.

Much manlier Viking manliness.

I actually kind of liked Prospero Burns' depiction of the Space Wolves, but frankly the setting bends over backwards to accomodate them, they do whatever the hell they want (While being inconsistently characterised) without facing any form of vague retribution.

Like the TS are disgrace to the real Egyptians and Harry Potter manliness...

Don't spam the boards with pointless threads like this. Thanks.