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So after a torrent of 2400 point ETC matches I have settled back into the 1500 point region for some pick up and play madness as well as tournies that I plan on attending, I was considering creating a new Goblin and Goblin army I decided that I'll take my Beastmen for a whirl. I had considered going with 4 Tuskgor Chariots for my core but decided I really wanted the Gor Horde for some sort of staying power alongside the carnage that the Minotaurs can cause.

Basically the Raiders are included to try and get me a favourable match up with the 206 Horde, while the Harpies ar eincluded to tie up as many ranged threats as possible to help my Mini Minobus get into combat and start ripping things up

Great Bray-Shaman - 325 pts
Level 4, Fencer's Blades, Jagged Dagger, Talisman of Preservation

Wargor - 206 pts
Battle Standard Bearer, Heavy Armour, Shield, Gnarled Hide, The Beast Banner

38 Gor - 319 pts
Extra Hand Weapon, Musician, Standard Bearer

5 Ungor Raiders - 30 pts

5 Ungor Raiders - 30 pts

6 Minotaurs - 424 pts
Shields, Full Command, Blackened Plate

5 Harpies - 55 pts

5 Harpies - 55 pts

5 Harpies - 55 pts

1499 Points

First of, what lore is your GBS? With only one shaman, I would be tempted to go with Beasts or Shadow. Personally I would go for beasts.

Second, given that you do not have a Gorebull or Doombull to escort the Mino's I would exchange the Blackened plate on the Bloodkine in exchange for a magic weapon. ASF or I10 sword are the ones I would go for personally. Yes the Blackened plate will help with survivability, but only against flaming attacks. It will do nothing for other type of attacks, where as the weapon will help you get more kills.

Thirdly, I would take of the shields off the Mino's. Yes having a 5+ save is nice, but in reality anything that is not str3 and is fighting your Mino's will not have to much of an issue wounding them. And once they get their first won combat, you are looking at a forfeit of points directly to your opponent, as they will NOT be able to parry due to being frenzied.

Also, I might drop one of the harpies for a Razorgor.

I typed out a load of info and hit the wrong button, I will eventually learn to copy my text before I post so that this doesn't occur too often.

GBS - Since shadow is my favourite lore I'd have to go with that for the time being, the option of Miasmad High Elfs not rerolling is just too good to pass.

Blackened Plate - I included as this unit will be going after the Flaming Banner unit first, I tried the ASF/ I10 swords on the Bloodkine and wasn't all that impressed with the results, it works a lot better on the Doom/Gorebulls than the champion although I was considering the Other Tricksters Shard on him rather than the armour.

Shields on the Mino's, it really is for those few turns where the 3 units of Harpies is not enough to keep the amount of S3 shooting down, have played 3 games so far and so far only lost 1 Mino before combat thanks to shields and Blackend Plate. Yes the lost points as soon as they win the first combat is annoying but I'd rather have that redundancy in the list.

I had considered the Razorgor but at the moment happy with the 3 Harpies to tie stuff down fast so that my Minotaurs stay living longer.

Congrats on coming over to the Call of the Wild!

No about the list I wouldn't call it a minobus, a minobus is usually defined by having 2-3 doombull/gorebull in the front rank, this way the enemy is hitting against the higher WS, Toughness and magic defense. The thing about minotaur is they are only T4 so they cannot take a lot of damage so you really have to make sure you match them up favorably, such as not charging them into those white lions, aim for the spearmen instead, anything with high strength is gonna be tough and as soon as you take 3 wounds you lose attacks. Oncebitten has proven that you can get away with a doombull, possibly a gorebull in these lower points would work but you need something to rack up the kills so you win combat, but even then be careful about what you send this unit into.

So fitting this in at 1500 is very difficult, and I don't recommend dropping the Level4 to do it, magic is so key to what we do. So check it out, see how it works for you and if you find them lacking maybe try taking a level 2 and a doombull, or shelf the minos until you can get higher in points, for that same cost you can get over 30 bestigors, full command and standard of discipline and while the bestigors hit last.. they do hit harder, good chance of rerolling misses with primal fury and the general in the unit and you'll have some 30 wounds over 18 on the minos and they will need to cause 15 wounds before you start losing attacks (assuming 6 wide), if you were willing to drop 2 units of harpies you could even 40 for a 2nd horde that puts out a whole lot of damage, though the loss of chaff may not be worth it against some armies.

You're welcome I had Minotaurs since the new plastics were released and figured a couple of months ago to give them some company. In the original version of the list I had a GBS and Gorebull BSB hence the Mini Minobus in the thread title but changed my mind when the first long intorductory post was lost to the chaos realms.

The above list is a watered down version of what I have been running in 2400 etc preparation (couple of clubmates attending some indy ETC GT soon). i had considered running all Chariots and Ungor in Core but with the possibility of Blood and Glory scenario's I would definately be at a disadvantage.

I like Bestigors but feel that to include them I need another couple of threats, I hear what you're saying I might have a play around and see if I can fit in a ranked up unit of Razorgor instead of the minotaurs as I feel like I am missing chaff and could squeeze a bit more in

This is the Chariot List

Beastlord - 289
Tuskgor Chariot, Heavy Armour, Shield, Ramhorn Helm, Brass Cleaver

Wargor - 211
Battle Standard Bearer, Tuskgor Chariot, Heavy Armour, Shield, Gnarled Hide

Bray Shaman - 95
Level 1, Skin of Man, Shadow Hide, Lore of the Wild

Tuskgor Chariot - 80

Tuskgor Chariot - 80

Tuskgor Chariot - 80

Tuskgor Chariot - 80

5 Raiders - 33
Musician

5 Raiders - 33
Musician

Razorgor Chariot - 145

Razorgor Chariot - 145

5 Harpies - 55

5 Harpies - 55

Razorgor - 55

Razorgor - 55

Total 1491 Points

Tie up Missile Troops and warmachines asap with the Harpies and Razorgor, Bray Shaman deploys in some cover hopefully within 6" of my deployment zone (Scout) to use Bestial Surge as much as possible to close the gap quickly, will be joined by one of the Raider units to gain a bit more cover.

Hit hard and fast, target priority is going to be the key with this list