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I am way behind the times, but stumbled across this. A Sci-fi Rommel in 30mm.



Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

 mwnciboo wrote:
I am way behind the times, but stumbled across this. A Sci-fi Rommel in 30mm.



Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

That would make a really badass Lord Commissar too. Actually, now that I say that, I'm gonna be getting one!

And as I typed that, I went to their website and found this:


Hnnnngggg

Those are both very nice. Loving that Sci-fi Rommel, work well with Steel Legion too (sorta...)

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

That would make a really badass Lord Commissar too. Actually, now that I say that, I'm gonna be getting one!

Krieg can't have Creed or Lord Commissars, tsk tsk tsk.

Nice figure, is he available without annoying Nazi connotations?

Can you post a link to whatever store sells these? Thanks

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

That would make a really badass Lord Commissar too. Actually, now that I say that, I'm gonna be getting one!

Krieg can't have Creed or Lord Commissars, tsk tsk tsk.

I did write "Count's as".

Model site,

www.kabukimodels.com

@Kid_kyoto by Nazi symbols do you mean the Iron Cross (Balkenkreuz) because if so, that's not Nazi but an Old Prussian Symbol and has been around along time. Or do you mean the fact he is called Rommel? Bearing in mind that Rommel was executed on Hitlers orders for being complicit in the Bomb plot, so I don't think he qualifies as an Nazi either.

Personally he makes me think more of Kasrkin's rather than Krieg - the armour, uniform & equipment don't really shout 'Krieg' to me. But as a Commissar/Officer for Kasrkin - could work I think.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

That would make a really badass Lord Commissar too. Actually, now that I say that, I'm gonna be getting one!

Krieg can't have Creed or Lord Commissars, tsk tsk tsk.

You're making a rather big assumption that Kreig models are used exclusively with the Kreig army list rather than C:IG....

 Scott-S6 wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

That would make a really badass Lord Commissar too. Actually, now that I say that, I'm gonna be getting one!

Krieg can't have Creed or Lord Commissars, tsk tsk tsk.

You're making a rather big assumption that Kreig models are used exclusively with the Kreig army list rather than C:IG....

I have to agree with Scott, the FW list only represents a Krieg Siege Regiment, not the Krieg Infantry or Armor regiments.

Also check out SCi-Fi Napoleon from the same company

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

 Scott-S6 wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

That would make a really badass Lord Commissar too. Actually, now that I say that, I'm gonna be getting one!

Krieg can't have Creed or Lord Commissars, tsk tsk tsk.

You're making a rather big assumption that Kreig models are used exclusively with the Kreig army list rather than C:IG....

I have to agree with Scott, the FW list only represents a Krieg Siege Regiment, not the Krieg Infantry or Armor regiments.

Also check out SCi-Fi Napoleon from the same company

I've just found my Creed figure.

 mwnciboo wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

That would make a really badass Lord Commissar too. Actually, now that I say that, I'm gonna be getting one!

Krieg can't have Creed or Lord Commissars, tsk tsk tsk.

I did write "Count's as".

Model site,

www.kabukimodels.com

@Kid_kyoto by Nazi symbols do you mean the Iron Cross (Balkenkreuz) because if so, that's not Nazi but an Old Prussian Symbol and has been around along time. Or do you mean the fact he is called Rommel? Bearing in mind that Rommel was executed on Hitlers orders for being complicit in the Bomb plot, so I don't think he qualifies as an Nazi either.

Technically, Hitler gave Rommel the choice of committing suicide or having his entire family executed. Rommel chose to commit suicide to save his family. Also, to kid_kyoto: even though Rommel was a German Officer in the Nazi army, lumping him in with the rest of the depravity of what the Nazi's did is a gross disgrace to Rommel.
The following is taken from Wikipedia:

"The Afrika Korps were never accused of any war crimes, and Rommel himself referred to the fighting in North Africa as Krieg ohne Hass—war without hate. Numerous examples exist of Rommel's chivalry towards Allied POWs, such as his defiance of Hitler's infamous Commando Order following the capture of Lt. Roy Woodridge and Lt. George Lane as part of Operation Fortitude. He also refused to comply with Hitler's order to execute Jewish POWs.
During Rommel's time in France, Hitler ordered him to deport the country's Jewish population; Rommel disobeyed. Several times he wrote letters protesting against the treatment of the Jews. When British Major Geoffrey Keyes was killed during a failed commando raid to kill or capture Rommel behind German lines, Rommel ordered him buried with full military honours. Also, during the construction of the Atlantic Wall, Rommel directed that French workers were not to be used as slaves, but were to be paid for their labour"

Rommel may have been a German Soldier, but he was no Nazi.

 NuclearMessiah wrote:

I have to agree with Scott, the FW list only represents a Krieg Siege Regiment, not the Krieg Infantry or Armor regiments.

Also check out SCi-Fi Napoleon from the same company

Straken. Right there.

Anyone know how big this model would be compared to my regular IG infantry? He fits my theme perfectly!

Rivet wrote:
Rommel may have been a German Soldier, but he was no Nazi.

Implying German soldiers were by default Nazis is actually pretty offensive. They got drafted just like everybody else, only they didn't get to go to jail for refusing.

This is the badassiest

Space Rommel, I read your codex!

So no one has an opinion/idea of how this model would look next to IG models? lol

Militarized wrote:
So no one has an opinion/idea of how this model would look next to IG models? lol

It would look totally normal. Specially with the Steel Legion or Krieg

Bit too high tech for Krieg looks, however, Hostile Environnement cadians...

 mwnciboo wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

Makes you want to buy a Krieg army and run him as a Counts as "CREED". Superb.

That would make a really badass Lord Commissar too. Actually, now that I say that, I'm gonna be getting one!

Krieg can't have Creed or Lord Commissars, tsk tsk tsk.

I did write "Count's as".

Model site,

www.kabukimodels.com

@Kid_kyoto by Nazi symbols do you mean the Iron Cross (Balkenkreuz) because if so, that's not Nazi but an Old Prussian Symbol and has been around along time. Or do you mean the fact he is called Rommel? Bearing in mind that Rommel was executed on Hitlers orders for being complicit in the Bomb plot, so I don't think he qualifies as an Nazi either.

Just as a heads up, be careful which links you click. Some of those models are most definitely NOT safe for work

Rommel may have been a German Soldier, but he was no Nazi.

troopers under him were shoting wounded Polish PoW that stayed to defend dunkiera and have surrendered . When he was the komendant of hitlers HQ durning the Polish campaign , troopers under him were executing and driving civilians out of their homes . The fact that he treated english or US troopers different does not make him any better then all the other nazis.

Makumba wrote:

Rommel may have been a German Soldier, but he was no Nazi.

troopers under him were shoting wounded Polish PoW that stayed to defend dunkiera and have surrendered . When he was the komendant of hitlers HQ durning the Polish campaign , troopers under him were executing and driving civilians out of their homes . The fact that he treated english or US troopers different does not make him any better then all the other nazis.

Nigh every commander in history has skeletons in their closet if you put it that way.

Makumba wrote:

Rommel may have been a German Soldier, but he was no Nazi.

troopers under him were shoting wounded Polish PoW that stayed to defend dunkiera and have surrendered . When he was the komendant of hitlers HQ durning the Polish campaign , troopers under him were executing and driving civilians out of their homes . The fact that he treated english or US troopers different does not make him any better then all the other nazis.

What made him better is that he did not condone that behavior. Avoiding civilian populations was one of Rommel's key war concepts, ironed out in WWI. War itself is an atrocity and the depth of that evil is only held in check by men or woman of honor.
To further put things in perspective.
Inthe North Africa campaign Von Lucks recon div got caught up in a very orderly conflict in the depths of the desert with the British that involved nightly radio chats to find lost units, organize prisoner exchanges and trading of medical supplies.
Rommel gave him a pat on the back and said good job, glad you could do it, here on the coast the fighting was all about survival.
The Monty relieved his commander for fraternizing with the enemy.
See the difference?



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Oh...back on topic. I don't get a very Rommel vibe from the mini. It takes more than field glasses or goggles to make a Rommel. Maybe if he had a sandwich.........


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Or big head....



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Maybe Rommel was an Ork? Rommel carried a French pistol and rode around in a looted British command car. About cried when he lost the last of his looted 40mm "dual purpose guns".......

Don't Romanticise Rommel too much, he was a "Rat Catcher" a good General of that there is no doubt, but he was often too far forward and he drove his staff to distraction.

As a Soldier their is an imperative to clear about that which you fight for. You fight to maintain, preserve or advance a Political Cause, the cause of National Socialism was that Political cause.

You cannot absolve him of responsibility by saying he was honourably following orders, by that definition the concentration camp guards were honourably following Orders. I don't think he was an Ardent Nazi, but he fought for them and you must be very careful what you do in life because you will be judged on your actions, decisions, who you declare for, who you will spill blood in the name of.

He was an excellent General, but lets not look at him through Rose tinted glasses. In his race through Northern France towards Dunkirk, many civilians were killed, many were terrorised and held under the jackboot of Oppression until 1944. To forget that he was part of a greater whole, and more importantly became a Senior Figure within it is to truly look upon this with Rose Tinted Glasses.

The allies were no saints either and we performed plenty of atrocious acts ourselves.

ANYWAY......I think this model might make an appearance as a "count's as" hero in my Dust Warfare army.

 mwnciboo wrote:
Don't Romanticise Rommel too much, he was a "Rat Catcher" a good General of that there is no doubt, but he was often too far forward and he drove his staff to distraction.

As a Soldier their is an imperative to clear about that which you fight for. You fight to maintain, preserve or advance a Political Cause, the cause of National Socialism was that Political cause.

You cannot absolve him of responsibility by saying he was honourably following orders, by that definition the concentration camp guards were honourably following Orders. I don't think he was an Ardent Nazi, but he fought for them and you must be very careful what you do in life because you will be judged on your actions, decisions, who you declare for, who you will spill blood in the name of.

He was an excellent General, but lets not look at him through Rose tinted glasses. In his race through Northern France towards Dunkirk, many civilians were killed, many were terrorised and held under the jackboot of Oppression until 1944. To forget that he was part of a greater whole, and more importantly became a Senior Figure within it is to truly look upon this with Rose Tinted Glasses.

Not ment to be an absolution of responsibility, and I don't have rose tinted glasses on. He was a soldier, and soldiers don't get to make many of the decisions that they end up ultimatly being responsible for. Rommel's career predated National Socialism, and he did not like politics. It was entering the political side of the equation that got him killed. Personally, I wished we had more Rommels on both sides of the war.

Interesting side note on the rebuilding and democratization of post war Germany. Afrika corps prisoners were specifically chosen for extra education while under an extended internment with the idea that they would be the new leaders of the new Germany. So some of Rommels chosen few, became our chosen few.

Personally, I wished we had more Rommels on both sides of the war.

I have to disagree with this entirely, more talented Generals would have made for even more slaughter. The fact that Hitler interfered continually was actually to our benefit. I definitely wouldn't have wanted more Von Runstedts or Models or Heydrichs running about even if we had a few more Pattons and Slims. It was bad enough as it was without throwing a hundred weight of napalm on the fire.

 mwnciboo wrote:

Personally, I wished we had more Rommels on both sides of the war.

I have to disagree with this entirely, more talented Generals would have made for even more slaughter.

Nuts!
So a pile of incompetent Generals would have created less slaughter?
Incompetence, hubris, hate, these are some of the traits that create historic slaughters.

Bad Generals can be exploited by Good ones. Raising the Bar across the field would not have made the war quicker or less costly.

Slaughters also happen when highly Competent Conventional Forces meet incompetent Generals. The Highway of Death 1991 Desert Storm comes to mind...



This was such bad PR, rightly or wrongly, that Colin Powell strongly backed the Ceasefire.

So I think your Romanticized view of Combat is well off, Slaughter doesn't happen because of incompetence, It happens as a consequence of War. As newly minted Civilian after the last 10 years as an Officer in the UK armed Forces, I can hand on heart tell you that the efficiency of man to wage war on man is beyond most peoples comprehension.