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So, I have been collecting a chaos space marine army for some years now and with the arrival of the new rulebook I disided to rewrite my army list, and include allies were my army has holes. I should probably wait for the new codex but I need a visable army to play until that unknown date.

So in my army so far I have;
Two daemon princes
Two dreadnoughts (don't ask why)
Fabius bile & typhus
An assortment of chaos lords and sorcerers
A ten man squad of khorne berserkers
Ten plague marines
Ten thousand sons
Ten noise marines
Ten raptors
Ten bikers
Plenty of chaos spawn
Three rhinos
Four obliterators
And a defiler
I was wondering what a desent 1500 army list would be. I don't really have any fluff, so I can just make it up as I go along. I want to use allies so they should be included in the 1500 points. Thanks

Points may be a little off, but try

2 Tzeentch Princes with 2 powers each (for Telepathy)
10 PM's with 2x Plasma Guns
9 Thousand Sons w/ Telepathy on the Sorcerer
2 Obliterators
2 Obliterators

As for Allies, I'd throw Fateweaver in with some Horrors + as many Screamers as you can fit.

That sort of list would do well, though I'm not sure on points.


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PS- a little analysis:

- Rhinos are not as required as they were last edition, so it's okay to have some Troops walk. Besides, with demon allies you have a deep striking unit of Troops no matter what

-Screamers are stupid. As in good. They provide CSMs with a durable anti-tank (and anti-terminator) unit that can turbo boost up to 24" and get rerolls if it stays in the Fateweaver bubble

-The Changeling upgrade in a Horror unit can take the heat off your probably outnumbered CSM army by making an enemy unit shoot at friendlies.

-If you can take 2x plasma, do so. I'd run the "Noise marines" as standard CSM, unless you have the sonic weapons on them already. If so, just take berzerkers, but they should probably be in a Landraider since Rhinos suck.

Do it cheezy...

2 Demon Princes MoN 300 or 330 if you want Nurgles Rot
5 Plague Marines - 2 Plasma Guns 145
5 Plague Marines - 2 Plasma Guns 145
7 Havocs- 4 Plasma Guns, MoN 215
7 Havocs- 4 Plasma Guns, MoN 215


Allies -

1 Epidemius 110 ?
7 Plague Bearers 105
7 Plague Bearers 105 Lose it if you go over on points.
1 Demon Prince - MoN 200 ?

It is not perfect but it should do the damage. Everything has MON so it adds to the tally. Your army will be disgusting when you hit 20 kills. That is the reason for all the plasma

Another thought is to switch one CSM Demon Prince for a Lord or Sorcerer and then get an ADL with Quad Flakk. The Lord or Sorcerer man the gun and let it provide anti- air protection for you.

For anti-tank you have 3 demon princes...

If you want to go pure. Then Nurgle Bikers with a Nurgle Lord on a Bike is interesting... T6 plus 2 melta guns would be interesting.

Everything has MON so it adds to the tally.

havocks get icons not marks.

Makumba wrote:

Everything has MON so it adds to the tally.

havocks get icons not marks.

Bearing in mind that the Icon gives all models in the unit the MoN; that's it's purpose for existing. IIRC killing the icon-bearer removes the MoN from the rest of the unit.

Well, Epidemius or Fateweaver are the best choices here as said above.

2 Daemon Princes, Wings, Mark of Slaanesh, Lash of Submission - 155 x2

10 Khorne Berserkers, Skull Champion w/Power Fist, Rhino - 264

5 Plague Marines, Plasma x2, Rhino - 180

5 Plague Marines, Plasma x2, Rhino - 180

2 squads of 2x Oblits - 150 x2

Defiler, Tl-Lascannon, extra CCW (replaces heavy flamer) - 170

Total 1404 points. Lots of room for wargear, Plague Champion with Power Fists, etc.


Personally, I love the Epidemius lists. I think they work very well. If you used what you currently have and bought an Epidemius model and one box of Plaguebearers, you could field this list:

HQ:
2x Daemon Princes, Wings, Mark of Nurgle, Nurgle's Rot - 165 points each

Troops:
10 Chaos Space Marines, Mark of Nurgle, Plasmagun x2 - 230

5 Plague Marines, Plasma x2, Rhino - 180

5 Plague Marines, Plasma x2, Rhino - 180

Heavy Support:
2x Oblits - 150

1x Defiler, TL-lascannon, Extra CCW (replaces Heavy Flamer) - 170

Allies:
HQ:
Epidemius - 110

10x Plaguebearers - 150

Total = 1500

Daemon prince
Mon-
Bolt -
140pts


7x plague -
2 plasma -
Champ-
P. fist-
231pts

7x plague -
2 melta -
Champ-
P. fist-
221pts
                              592

5 havoc -
Mon-
4 ml -
205 pts 
                                          
5 havocs -
Mon-
4 Ml-
205pts
                                   1002


Allies

Epidemius -

10 Plague bearers -        1262

Daemon prince -
D flight -  
Iron hide -
Mon-
Noxious-
Flies-
Aura-
235pts.                           1497

                                     



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This is my take on epidemius. Will jack the tally up quick!

Allright everything you have said makes sense so far,
Does this list then sound good:

Bloodletters of khorne
10 letters
Chaos Icon
185

Flamers of tzeentch
8 Flammers
280

Great uncleaned one
Cloud of flies
Aura of Decay
Instrument of chaos
190

Daemon prince
Wings
MoS
Lash
155
×2
210

Noise Marine Squad
8 Marines
Personal icon
All with sonic blasters
Blast master
Rhino
255

8 Plague Marines
Personal icon
Champ with Plasma Pistol
2 Plasma guns
281

Defiler
CC arm-Autocannon
150

2 Obliterator
150

Thats about 1500pts. The idea of it would be to make a line with the nm in there rhino with the DP hidding behind it, both obliterators, and the defiler behind a row of PM as close to the enemy as possible. As soon as I can I wil deep stike the daemons even closer to the enemy and go to work from there.