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Made in gr
Regular Dakkanaut





TROOPS
85 (5 GH, plasma)

125 (5 GH,razorback, plasma)

235 (10 GH, rhino, 2 plasma, MOTW,standard)

235 (10 GH, rhino, 2 plasma, MOTW,standard)

235 (10 GH, rhino, 2 plasma, MOTW,standard)


HQ
200 = 1 runepriests(bolt pistol, runic weapon), 1 runepriest (Bolter)

ELITES
95 = LoneWolf (TDA, TH,ss,1 fenrisian wolf)
135 = dreadnought plasma cannon,heavy flamer,wolftoothnecklace

HEAVY SUPORT

115 5 longfangs (4ML)

115 5 longfangs (4ML)

175 5 longfangs (4PC)


Tacts : long fangs hammer the opponent while staying in cover as much as possible, 1 rune priest goes with
plasma cannons and one with missile lunchers for rerolls.The dreadnought uses plasma cannon to kill as much as possible
while being close combat effective with heavy flamer and wolftooth necklace. The lone wolf is running towards the enemy
trying to kill the toughest opponents. The 5 man with no transport guard base objective, the 3 full rhino squads go towards
the enemy firing plasma shots and trying to capture enemy objectives. The 5 man razorback squad is moving towards a close to base
objective.


 
   
Made in us
Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader





Massachusetts

0) Your point cost are wrong on the GH squads. They should be 220 points not 235 points.

1) Lose the dreadnought. It will never pay for itself like that. Or if you really want to keep it then decide now if it's a support dread or a close combat dread. If it's a support dread, then you don't need the heavy flamer or the WTN. If it's a CC dread, then take an assault cannon instead of PC and get a drop pod.

2) Add another heavy weapon to your top two long fang squads. I'd take a lascannon or another ML in each of those.

3) 5 plasma cannons is too many for one LF squad. Blas weapons don't benefit as much from divination re-rolls but if you dont' use divination, you'll get hot almost every turn. Why not reduce this to 2 or 3 PC's and take heavy bolters with the remaining models? Heavy bolters can provide more volume of fire than plasma cannons and even though they're not AP2, they also don't kill your own guys. As a bonus, the heavy bolters can both move and shoot snap shots and fire overwatch if charged.

4) I can see this list doing well against GK because it is so plasma heavy. But as a tournament list, you need to be prepared for other lists too. For example...You don't have any melta at all. What are you going to do if one of your opponents has 2 or 3 Land Raiders? Or 2 Necron Monoliths? Or 6 Lehman Russes?

2500 pts

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Made in gr
Regular Dakkanaut





Thnx for advice i changed my list and this is it :
TROOPS
85 (5 GH, plasma)

125 (5 GH,razorback, plasma)

220 (10 GH, rhino, 2 plasma, MOTW,standard)

220 (10 GH, rhino, 2 plasma, MOTW,standard)

220 (10 GH, rhino, 2 plasma, MOTW,standard)


HQ
200 = 1 runepriests(bolt pistol, runic weapon), 1 runepriest (Bolter)

ELITES
95 = LoneWolf (TDA, TH,ss)
125 = dreadnought plasma cannon, missile luncher

HEAVY SUPORT

155 5 longfangs (4ML,LC)

140 5 longfangs (5ML)

175 5 longfangs (4PC)


This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/31 10:16:07


 
   
Made in us
Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader





Massachusetts

Ok...again with the dreadnought. You're paying 125 points for the dreadnought which has only two heavy weapons and can be destroyed with a single shot from a lascannon. By comparison, for 125 points, you could get 3 missile launchers and a plasmacannon with 5 long fangs. That has almost double the firepower, can fire at two targets and is a lot harder to kill.

Consider also that your dreadnought is the only thing in your army with an armor value greater than 11. That means that your opponent will quite likely shoot all of his lascannons at it on the first turn. Your dread will probably NOT survive and that means you've paid 125 points to maybe shoot a plasma cannon once and a missile launcher once. This is not a good return on your investment.

Maybe you really want to use the Dreadnought because you already have the model? But I would recommend trading it in for something else. Specifically, I would use the 125 points to make this grey hunter squad...
Spoiler:
85 (5 GH, plasma)

into this
Spoiler:
205 (10 GH, 2 x meltaguns, MotW, drop pod)

That leaves you 5 points to spare which ... meh ... give a meltabomb to your lone wolf.

If you make this change, you will get rid of a unit that is likely to die without affecting the outcome of the game and you will give yourself a unit which can drop in and vaporize any heavy armor your opponent may have on the first turn. Your opponent will then be forced to deal with this GH unit, and that will buy you some time to advance with your Rhinos.


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As for tactics...They don't have to change much.

You can still leave your 5 man GH squad on any objective in your deployment zone and have it's razorback either advance if you want, or it can hang back and provide fire.

Your Lone Wolf should take advantage of your wall of Rhinos to stay out of LOS (if possible) while advancing at full speed.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/08/31 13:20:57


2500 pts

Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.



 
   
 
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