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This is an IG/ Space Wolf list i am playing around with, almost 80 scoring models and flyers + Rune priest and grey hunters etc


Commissar (Bolt Gun)

1 X 10 Veterans ( 1 x Plasma Gun, 1x Melta Gun)
Chimera (1x Multi Laser, 1 x Heavy Bolter)

1 X 10 Veterans ( 1 x Plasma Gun, 1x Melta Gun)
Chimera (1x Multi Laser, 1 x Heavy Bolter)

1 X 10 Veterans ( 1 x Plasma Gun, 1x Melta Gun)
Chimera (1x Multi Laser, 1 x Heavy Bolter)

1 X 10 Veterans ( 1 x Plasma Gun, 1x Melta Gun)
Chimera (1x Multi Laser, 1 x Heavy Bolter)

1 X 10 Veterans ( 1 x Plasma Gun, 1x Melta Gun)
Chimera (1x Multi Laser, 1 x Heavy Bolter)

1 X 10 Veterans ( 1 x Plasma Gun, 1x Melta Gun)
Chimera (1x Multi Laset, 1 x Heavy Bolter)

1 X 1 Vendetta ( x3 TL Las Cannons ,x 2 Heavy Bolters Skyfire)

1 X 1 Vendetta ( x3 TL Las Cannons , x 2 Heavy Bolters, Skyfire)

1 X 1 Vendetta ( x3 TL Las Cannons ,x 2 Heavy Bolters, Skyfire)

Space SWolves Allies

1 x1 Rune Priest (Runic Armor , JOTWW, LL , Melta Bombs)
1X9 Grey Hunters (1 x Plasma Gun)
Rhino

1 x1 Rune Priest (Runic Armor , MH, LL )
1X9 Grey Hunters (1 x Plasma Gun)
Rhino

Uh, why one Plasma one Melta per squad? Seems like you'd end up not able to do either function properly. I feel like vets are better off with stacking a single Special Weapon, though sometimes I'll mix in a AC for variation, but that's it

 felixander wrote:
Uh, why one Plasma one Melta per squad? Seems like you'd end up not able to do either function properly. I feel like vets are better off with stacking a single Special Weapon, though sometimes I'll mix in a AC for variation, but that's it

Yeah that's good feedback, I am a little worried of high AV stuff getting in my face and having no counter.

As it stands i am probably dropping the Bolters from the vendetta and adding plasma guns to the vet squads, I'll tweak it but I still might want to do 1 melta gun , 2 plasma guns

I think its a nasty list, its a lot of stuff to try and kill in 5 or 6 turns with a lot of firepower going down range and it even includes a true "swiss army knife" Wolves contingent to hold down or press forward on a flank

Meltas kill everything, but have lower range. If you are getting close enough to the opponent regularly to use meltas, i'd suggest just loading up on them. Instant killing Marine Commanders and putting the pain on anything else.

I like melta, but Plasma getting two shots and having the option of range is great. But not IDing T4 and killing yourself is never good (Killed 5 out of 6 of my PGs two games ago =( )

If you really want both weapons what you should try then is specializing squads have 2 and 4 or what ever mix with double plasma then the other units double melta. that way your units have a job that they excel at but can still work the other direction. melta kill tanks and can still hurt heavy infintry, while plasma can wipe the heavy infiintry and still hurt light tanks if needed.

To save the points for the extra guns you could drop one chimera, have that vet squad ride a vendetta,

aleis wrote:
If you really want both weapons what you should try then is specializing squads have 2 and 4 or what ever mix with double plasma then the other units double melta. that way your units have a job that they excel at but can still work the other direction. melta kill tanks and can still hurt heavy infintry, while plasma can wipe the heavy infiintry and still hurt light tanks if needed.

To save the points for the extra guns you could drop one chimera, have that vet squad ride a vendetta,

2 and 4 is the ticket.

aleis wrote:
If you really want both weapons. what you should try then is specializing squads have 2 and 4 or what ever mix with double plasma then the other units double melta. that way your units have a job that they excel at but can still work the other direction. melta kill tanks and can still hurt heavy infintry, while plasma can wipe the heavy infiintry and still hurt light tanks if needed.

This exactly ^.

Consider that each unit has to pick a single target. You can either fire at infantry or at a tank. Obviously, you want to shoot your meltaguns at tanks and your plasmaguns at infantry. If you concentrate your weapons, then when you shoot your meltagun squad at a tank, you'll be shooting TWO meltaguns at it and your two plasmaguns will still be able to shoot at infantry. But if you do it the other way around, then one plasmagun is potentially wasted shooting at an AV 14 tank. Meanwhile if the one meltagun from the other squad is actually in range of the infantry, then a plasmagun could have been rapid firing.

 Grugknuckle wrote:

aleis wrote:
If you really want both weapons. what you should try then is specializing squads have 2 and 4 or what ever mix with double plasma then the other units double melta. that way your units have a job that they excel at but can still work the other direction. melta kill tanks and can still hurt heavy infintry, while plasma can wipe the heavy infiintry and still hurt light tanks if needed.

This exactly ^.

Consider that each unit has to pick a single target. You can either fire at infantry or at a tank. Obviously, you want to shoot your meltaguns at tanks and your plasmaguns at infantry. If you concentrate your weapons, then when you shoot your meltagun squad at a tank, you'll be shooting TWO meltaguns at it and your two plasmaguns will still be able to shoot at infantry. But if you do it the other way around, then one plasmagun is potentially wasted shooting at an AV 14 tank. Meanwhile if the one meltagun from the other squad is actually in range of the infantry, then a plasmagun could have been rapid firing.

yes i agree 100%

Consider dropping the Chimeras from the Melta-Vets and loading them up in Vendettas instead. Melta Vets with Demolitions dropping in can ruin all sorts of people's day

Maybe use a Primaris Psyker instead of a a LC. Throw him in with 1 of the Chi-Vets

Consider your options carefully with the GH squads. I understand why you didn't take 10, but think about what will work best for you. Are Vanilla GHs 6-9 the best use of those points? What about a power weapon? Mark of the Wulfen?

HHFs on your Chimeras would help