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I don't know who soulpancake is, but /salute

a nice video.

My only qualm is that the guy representing the store and the hobby in general just happens to be a neck beard. Just sayin'.

That said, I do feel that society in general views us wargamers as pasty skinned nerds who eat cheetos and drink mountain dew while wishing that we could touch a girls boobs, which is unfortunate. I've only ever known a single gamer like that. He was 16 at the time. I like to think that he outgrew it, but who knows.

The video they did on 40k didn't do the hobby any help, particularly 40k enthusiasts. They seemed to be quite biased towards warmahordes. The store rep isn't a neck beard, I know him personally.

Go to this thread for the link to the other video http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/473425.page

So maybe not so quick with the salutes.

if you have a neck beard, you are a neck beard. You can't argue it, it's science!

I will give it the benefit that no one I saw in that video looked detrimental to the image we'd prefer the hobby had.

I don't think the 6th edition 40k video was bad. 6th hasn't been out for that long, they mention that in the video.

Honestly, I liked the video. Make me want to paint my warmachine stuff again...

Also, anyone notice they called out Adepticon in the video. Will make it a lot easier to explain what it is to my parents now.

I have no doubt that a 90 second run-though of Warmachine would look pretty rushed, too. The rulebook is still the "size of a history book" there (smaller one, though ). They leave no doubt as to the general geekiness of wargaming but overall, they are presented as enthusiastic and friendly people, not closet crazies playing with army men.

I do like that it showed a father and son who played together, which shows the hobby in a very positive light, especially when you look at the age disparity between the two. So often parents that age either don't know how or don't care to connect with their kids on a level other than that of legal guardian who makes all the rules.

I very much hope that my two boys take up either wargames or music so that I can have the same relationship with them that I have with my own father.

 Aerethan wrote:
I do like that it showed a father and son who played together, which shows the hobby in a very positive light, especially when you look at the age disparity between the two. So often parents that age either don't know how or don't care to connect with their kids on a level other than that of legal guardian who makes all the rules.

I very much hope that my two boys take up either wargames or music so that I can have the same relationship with them that I have with my own father.

You man, are a good father by realizing how important it is to have a connection with your children. Wargaming is a perfect way to connect, and I've seen the bad end of having no connection with my own parents.

I suffered emotional abuse; substance and medical neglect from my own biological parents. When I got into Wargaming, I dragged my best friend with me into it. His parents knew all the model names, his grandma painted his terrain pieces, they discussed the game with him and were real proud of him finding an interest in something that he loved. By contrast, my parents were angry with me. My Grandma bought me a lot of stuff for the game (she's awesome), and when my mother found out she got furious. I used to buy video games by the boatload and I'd hear nothing from my mother, but when she found out I was buying stuff for Wargaming, she'd criticize me, telling me that i made a mess of things with them and she would throw my Wargaming stuff out if I left it out at night.

It is funny that it comes across to me as alien to me seeing a father and son playing a wargame in the video, but awesome at the same time, because now there's such a large community out there, that there is always potential for gaming families to occur. And it'll only keep on growing larger and larger with each new generation. Oh, unlike the guy in the video said, I do intend on getting married and then I intend to introduce my own children to Wargaming, and be the father I wanted to have in my own life

And if any of my children are girls, heaven knows what I'll think of a neckbeard prom date

(if you don't care for my story, I just thought it would be interesting to tie it to the above comment. I tried to keep it related to the topic, but if you feel it was unneeded information or whatever, then I understand you view point)

For me, having my wife and kids involved in my interests enriches my experience in general. My sons are too young to paint much or play, but my 5 year old already wants his own collection of "guys" as he calls them that he can paint.

In the end I get some regular opponents, more models to paint, and hopefully with my older son I'll get an apprentice painter, which I would love to have.

I've seen similar enthusiasm from children down at my local library where my friends play. I had a brother to play with so I know how good it is to have somebody at home to play. He couldn't paint however, and I'm jealous that your little ones are showing an interest in it. Even my friends want me to paint their models for them. And I'm no professional