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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/31 13:15:03
Subject: 2000 Pt Orks with CSM Allies
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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Hello,
I haven’t played for a few years and new to the 6th Edition (the rule book on the side waiting for me to read). I’m going to get back into it with an Ork force combined with CSM allies.
I’m not sure if this is the best combination but I’ve got a large ork force and the Demon Prince model is outstanding and must be shoe-horned into any army.
List: 2000 PTS
HQ:
Warboss
TL Shoota
PK
Big Mek
KFF
Demon Prince
MZ
Bolt
Elites:
6 Chaos Terminators
2 PG
1 CF
1 HF
1 CF
1 CM
5 Lootas
Troops
9 Nobz + Painboy (+ The Big Mek)
2 PK
1 BC
Trukk
11 Slugga Boyz (inc Nob) + The Warboss
PK
Trukk
10 Marines
Champion
PW
x2 MG
Rhino
20 Shoota Boys
20 Slugga Boys (inc Nob)
PK
10 Gretchin
Herder
Ork Dredd
Big Shoota
Skorcha
Fast Attack
3 Deff koptas
TW ML
1 Buzzsaw
Heavy Support
3 Kills Kans
Big Shootas
3 Big Gunz
Herder
The basic plan is:
Pop the lootas, kans and big gunz on the flanks and go for side armour or troops. Push the kans up to try to get rear armour.
Koptas go after the armour or pile in to add numbers into assaults.
Gretchin Objective sit
Then against a shooty army:
The rest of the force forms a rush in two waves, trucks and rhino first; with the option to peel marines off to hunt armour. Boys, dredd and prince following;
Terminators deep strike
Against a fighty army:
Sit back and shoot a few turns
Terminators start on the table and support troops to objectives,
Any suggestions about the composition are welcome.
In the past my opponents have tended to have balanced SM, IG, Tau and Nids armies but I’m concerned about meeting heavily mechanized opponents particularly the 10-12 chimera IG armies or 9 LRBT IG armies doing the rounds.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/08/31 13:48:39
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/31 14:43:06
Subject: 2000 Pt Orks with CSM Allies
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I'm just not seeing the point in your CSM choices. Just because you can? Or....
Awful lot of points for not a lot of bang. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, 5 lootas? What are you planning on doing with 5 lootas?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/31 15:15:28
Subject: Re:2000 Pt Orks with CSM Allies
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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Yep the CSM are because the demon prince model is awesome, and a monsterous creature wandering around is always a tourist attraction.
I do like the idea of the terminators being able to drop in behind LRBTs, ice one with fire (inc combi melta) and assualt any others in the formation.
Agree to some extent about the lootas, I was short on points and opted for some big gunz to go with them so I could pentrate lighter armour easier and glance the heavier tanks, and bypass power armour saves. If I'm lucky I can always get 15 shots a turn out of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/08/31 15:36:04
Subject: 2000 Pt Orks with CSM Allies
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Then by all means, field that bad ass demon prince!
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/08/31 16:00:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/01 22:43:59
Subject: 2000 Pt Orks with CSM Allies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am not loving the chaos terminators.
I feel orks will want more melta and plasma, they would love to have some.
Also plague marines are awesome, if they can find a place.
Any chance your daemon prince can be slaneesh?
The list has all sorts of units but little that is going to work together.
What models do you own?
I think rhino+trukk spam would some how best suit your list with the units you are showing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 07:48:35
Subject: Re:2000 Pt Orks with CSM Allies
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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The prince is Tzentch, mainly for the improved ward save, I know I have not made the most of the additional power but in the past the save has let him stand up to a charge from 10 nobz + warlord inc 4 power claws; I was very lucky, but it let a unit of plague marines and a defiler charge in and swing it for me.
The only models I need to complete the list are the CSM and a chaos rhino although I probably convert a half finished razor back for that; I think you have a point about the plague marines I'll go away and have a fiddle with the points, scrap a few killa kans and try to get some lower AP fire power into the mix.
I'll stick with the terminators for a few games and see how they work out, I've not played with the new rules yet and I hear they have gotten better due to the weakening of power weapons.
Thanks for the advice.
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