Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I started DE/40k about two months ago and have been slowly building and painting my army. (I am tediously when it comes to painting). I have yet to play a game and have been having quite a bit of trouble coming up with a competitive list. It seems that my favorite models/characters all happen to have the worst outcomes on the table...Drazhar, Lelith, Mandrakes, hordes of wytchs etc. Last night I attempted to come up with a couple 1500 point list so I could begin to make smarter purchases. Have a look at em and please tear them apart if they are total garbage. The models I currently have are:

1 Haemonculus
10 Wyches
20 Kabalite warriors
5 Wracks
5 Scourges
1 Venom
1 Raider

and the models I am partial to are Wyches, Succubus/Lelith, Incubi, Beasts/Beastmaster, Scourges, Razorwings.

Any help or tips are greatly appreciated


1500 point lists


Number 1

HQ- 155
Archon w/ venomblade & shadowfield- 95
Haemonculus w/ liquefier- 60

Elites- 202
6 Incubi in raider with dark lance & night shield

Troops - 580
10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon in raider w/ dark lance & night shield- 170
10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon in raider w/ dark lance & night shield- 170
5 Wracks- Acothyst, venom blade in venom w/ night shield- 137
4 Wracks- Acothyst, venom blade in venom w/ night shield- 125

Fast Attack - 260
5 Scourges w/2 haywire blaster X 2


Heavy Support- 310
2 Razorwing Jet Fighters w/ dissies & night shields

Total- 1507 (a little high :/ )

Number 2
HQ- 135
Succubus w/ venom blade& haywire grenades- 75
Haemonculus w/ liquefier- 60

Troops- 569
Wyches x 5 w/ haywire grenades in venom w/ night shields- 135
Wyches x 4 w/ haywire grenades- 48 in venon w/ night shield- 113
10 Warriors w/ splinter cannon in raider w/ dark lance & night shield- 170
9 Warriors w/ splinter cannon in raider w/ dark lance & night shield- 160

Fast Attack - 466
5 Scourges w/2 haywire blaster -130
3 Beastmasters each w/ 2 flocks- 276
1 Beastmaster w/ 4 khymerae - 50

Heavy Support- 330
2 Razorwing Jetfighters w/ dissies, splinter cannon & night shields-

Total- 1500 on the nose!

I came here expecting 1500 lists :(

....??? There are two lists there.